A new source (Ontario) for palms

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Paul Ont
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A new source (Ontario) for palms

Post by Paul Ont »

Hey Everyone,
Found another source, in Ontario, for Hardy Palms, bananas, and other exotic plants.

http://www.southcoastgardens.ca/plants.html

Check it out, their prices are quite competitive with the area standards!

Cheers,
Paul


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Post by lucky1 »

Thanks Paul for that link.

Wow, a 5 gal Butia for $45.00 is a great price.

If you visit their nursery, pls take your camera.

Why the heck are these suppliers always in the East? you don't need to answer that.

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Post by ROBRETI »

Thanks for the address, Paul, promissing nursery!

I also noticed that they carry many southern magnolia varieties!!! (besides, I am trying to hunt down a dwarf sweet bay (M. virginiana), with not much success. Due to space issues, plus due to its nice compact look, I would love to have these dwarfs,too, somehow. There are at least two varieties that are fully evergreen and very compact (about 3 M tall at 14 years' age, with about 6 m final hight when fully mature)
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Post by bananieru »

I think the price of Trachycarpus fortunei is good. What is the difference between the regular and the 'Taylor's Hardy'?

Also, does anybody know where I can buy a decent size (2-3 ft) Trachycarpus Wagnerianus in Southern Ontario? I live in Markham and I'd be willing to drive a little.

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Post by Paul Ont »

Barb- I won't answer that (but you should note that they are all within a 1 hour drive of each other... With the exception of Montreal landscaping, of course).

Rob- They do have a good selection of M. grandiflora... I'd still like ot see some of the rarer types (Simpsons hardy, poconos, 24-below, etc...) If you want a dwarf virginiana, why don't you just look for some of the northern forms, aren't they dwarf in nature?

Tavi- I don't think anyone in Ontario will have a 2-3 foot wagnerianus... I have one, but I don't plan on selling it at any point (sorry). 'Taylor's Hardy' is the generic name for seedlings produced from a palm that survived -5f or so in North Carolina. I don't think there is any difference between Taylor's Hardy and 'regular' T. fortunei, since: 1) 'Regular fortunei could also probably survive -5F as a 1 off low (certainly would survive). and 2) These are seed grown and therefore are actually only 1/2 Taylor Hardy by genetic make-up... If you think about it, this is why I also don't think it's a good idea to have named cultivars of fortunei, unless, like T. fortunei v. wagnerianus (var. wagnerianus, not cultivar 'Wagnerianus') you can be sure you have both a male and female palm that have the characteristics that the variant is supposed to posess (and these can/will be passed on to offspring)!
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Post by ROBRETI »

Hi Paul,

I am impressed by your detailed knowledge of the Trachy genus, wow!!!

Thanks for the note on the Magnolia virginiana! As far as I know, the Northern varieties are all decidious. In order to have an evergreen bush form, we need to find some specific selections in this respect. Some nurseries in - I think - Tennessee (if my memory serves me right, they are called "Sweet Thing", "Parry Paige" or something similar) came up with a couple of those; now I just have to get them somehow...

Once I get hold of them, I definitely will post pics on them; imagine having a 3 m Magnolia, green all the year round, with 5 inch, heavily lemon-scented flowers...... My knees have started shaking :-)

Thanks again, Paul!!!!
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Post by bananieru »

Thank you Paul,

I have a small wagnerianus, but it's only 6" big :) , I don't want to put it outside.

Do you have a picture of your wagnerianus? Is it outside?

Once a year usually I drive to Florida for vacation. Do you know a place where I can get one on the way there? (now that I think about not sure if my wife would appreciate a 3' palm in the car. She already had 20 in the bedroom over the winter)

Tavi
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Post by Barrie »

lucky1 wrote:Thanks Paul for that link.

Wow, a 5 gal Butia for $45.00 is a great price.

If you visit their nursery, pls take your camera.

Why the heck are these suppliers always in the East? you don't need to answer that.

:evil:
Barb
Barb ... there's several places that carry Butia around the lower BC mainland. Last time I looked Maple Leaf in West Vancouver had nice big chunky 15 gallon ones for $195.

Cheers, Barrie.
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Post by lucky1 »

That's not a bad price either Barrie (considering it's a Canadian source) :|

I'm happy with my one B.capitata purchased last year.
Got it at Art Knapp's (with a sizeable discount)...making it "doable".
She remembered I bought their two big Bottle Palms there.
:D

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Post by Barrie »

Barb ... Art Knapps have been quite reasonable by and large compared to others around the Island for their "exotics".
I know Pat here at their Nanaimo location and he's always fair. I direct folks there when required.

Cheers, Barrie.
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Post by lucky1 »

Good to hear, Barrie.
They used to be so expensive that I'd go there only to see what was available locally.
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