A new source (Ontario) for palms
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- Paul Ont
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A new source (Ontario) for palms
Hey Everyone,
Found another source, in Ontario, for Hardy Palms, bananas, and other exotic plants.
http://www.southcoastgardens.ca/plants.html
Check it out, their prices are quite competitive with the area standards!
Cheers,
Paul
Found another source, in Ontario, for Hardy Palms, bananas, and other exotic plants.
http://www.southcoastgardens.ca/plants.html
Check it out, their prices are quite competitive with the area standards!
Cheers,
Paul
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- Arctic Palm Plantation
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Thanks Paul for that link.
Wow, a 5 gal Butia for $45.00 is a great price.
If you visit their nursery, pls take your camera.
Why the heck are these suppliers always in the East? you don't need to answer that.
Barb
Wow, a 5 gal Butia for $45.00 is a great price.
If you visit their nursery, pls take your camera.
Why the heck are these suppliers always in the East? you don't need to answer that.

Barb
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Thanks for the address, Paul, promissing nursery!
I also noticed that they carry many southern magnolia varieties!!! (besides, I am trying to hunt down a dwarf sweet bay (M. virginiana), with not much success. Due to space issues, plus due to its nice compact look, I would love to have these dwarfs,too, somehow. There are at least two varieties that are fully evergreen and very compact (about 3 M tall at 14 years' age, with about 6 m final hight when fully mature)
Rob
I also noticed that they carry many southern magnolia varieties!!! (besides, I am trying to hunt down a dwarf sweet bay (M. virginiana), with not much success. Due to space issues, plus due to its nice compact look, I would love to have these dwarfs,too, somehow. There are at least two varieties that are fully evergreen and very compact (about 3 M tall at 14 years' age, with about 6 m final hight when fully mature)
Rob
- Paul Ont
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Barb- I won't answer that (but you should note that they are all within a 1 hour drive of each other... With the exception of Montreal landscaping, of course).
Rob- They do have a good selection of M. grandiflora... I'd still like ot see some of the rarer types (Simpsons hardy, poconos, 24-below, etc...) If you want a dwarf virginiana, why don't you just look for some of the northern forms, aren't they dwarf in nature?
Tavi- I don't think anyone in Ontario will have a 2-3 foot wagnerianus... I have one, but I don't plan on selling it at any point (sorry). 'Taylor's Hardy' is the generic name for seedlings produced from a palm that survived -5f or so in North Carolina. I don't think there is any difference between Taylor's Hardy and 'regular' T. fortunei, since: 1) 'Regular fortunei could also probably survive -5F as a 1 off low (certainly would survive). and 2) These are seed grown and therefore are actually only 1/2 Taylor Hardy by genetic make-up... If you think about it, this is why I also don't think it's a good idea to have named cultivars of fortunei, unless, like T. fortunei v. wagnerianus (var. wagnerianus, not cultivar 'Wagnerianus') you can be sure you have both a male and female palm that have the characteristics that the variant is supposed to posess (and these can/will be passed on to offspring)!
Rob- They do have a good selection of M. grandiflora... I'd still like ot see some of the rarer types (Simpsons hardy, poconos, 24-below, etc...) If you want a dwarf virginiana, why don't you just look for some of the northern forms, aren't they dwarf in nature?
Tavi- I don't think anyone in Ontario will have a 2-3 foot wagnerianus... I have one, but I don't plan on selling it at any point (sorry). 'Taylor's Hardy' is the generic name for seedlings produced from a palm that survived -5f or so in North Carolina. I don't think there is any difference between Taylor's Hardy and 'regular' T. fortunei, since: 1) 'Regular fortunei could also probably survive -5F as a 1 off low (certainly would survive). and 2) These are seed grown and therefore are actually only 1/2 Taylor Hardy by genetic make-up... If you think about it, this is why I also don't think it's a good idea to have named cultivars of fortunei, unless, like T. fortunei v. wagnerianus (var. wagnerianus, not cultivar 'Wagnerianus') you can be sure you have both a male and female palm that have the characteristics that the variant is supposed to posess (and these can/will be passed on to offspring)!
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Hi Paul,
I am impressed by your detailed knowledge of the Trachy genus, wow!!!
Thanks for the note on the Magnolia virginiana! As far as I know, the Northern varieties are all decidious. In order to have an evergreen bush form, we need to find some specific selections in this respect. Some nurseries in - I think - Tennessee (if my memory serves me right, they are called "Sweet Thing", "Parry Paige" or something similar) came up with a couple of those; now I just have to get them somehow...
Once I get hold of them, I definitely will post pics on them; imagine having a 3 m Magnolia, green all the year round, with 5 inch, heavily lemon-scented flowers...... My knees have started shaking
Thanks again, Paul!!!!
Rob
I am impressed by your detailed knowledge of the Trachy genus, wow!!!
Thanks for the note on the Magnolia virginiana! As far as I know, the Northern varieties are all decidious. In order to have an evergreen bush form, we need to find some specific selections in this respect. Some nurseries in - I think - Tennessee (if my memory serves me right, they are called "Sweet Thing", "Parry Paige" or something similar) came up with a couple of those; now I just have to get them somehow...
Once I get hold of them, I definitely will post pics on them; imagine having a 3 m Magnolia, green all the year round, with 5 inch, heavily lemon-scented flowers...... My knees have started shaking

Thanks again, Paul!!!!
Rob
Thank you Paul,
I have a small wagnerianus, but it's only 6" big
, I don't want to put it outside.
Do you have a picture of your wagnerianus? Is it outside?
Once a year usually I drive to Florida for vacation. Do you know a place where I can get one on the way there? (now that I think about not sure if my wife would appreciate a 3' palm in the car. She already had 20 in the bedroom over the winter)
Tavi
I have a small wagnerianus, but it's only 6" big

Do you have a picture of your wagnerianus? Is it outside?
Once a year usually I drive to Florida for vacation. Do you know a place where I can get one on the way there? (now that I think about not sure if my wife would appreciate a 3' palm in the car. She already had 20 in the bedroom over the winter)
Tavi
Barb ... there's several places that carry Butia around the lower BC mainland. Last time I looked Maple Leaf in West Vancouver had nice big chunky 15 gallon ones for $195.lucky1 wrote:Thanks Paul for that link.
Wow, a 5 gal Butia for $45.00 is a great price.
If you visit their nursery, pls take your camera.
Why the heck are these suppliers always in the East? you don't need to answer that.
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Barb
Cheers, Barrie.
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- Arctic Palm Plantation
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That's not a bad price either Barrie (considering it's a Canadian source)
I'm happy with my one B.capitata purchased last year.
Got it at Art Knapp's (with a sizeable discount)...making it "doable".
She remembered I bought their two big Bottle Palms there.
Barb

I'm happy with my one B.capitata purchased last year.
Got it at Art Knapp's (with a sizeable discount)...making it "doable".
She remembered I bought their two big Bottle Palms there.

Barb
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- Arctic Palm Plantation
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- Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:31 pm
- Location: Vernon BC, Zone 5a or 5b (close to 6A!)
Good to hear, Barrie.
They used to be so expensive that I'd go there only to see what was available locally.
Barb
They used to be so expensive that I'd go there only to see what was available locally.
Barb
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