Now some snow

yuccaman · Post by **yuccaman** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:10 am

I woke to a very cold morning (-1C) My chinese fan palm was left out again and its covered in snow and ice. Heres the photo.

Anyone elese have snow? Port erie got 30 cm.

Post by **Jay-Admin** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:14 am

No snow here. Usually don't see snow till around or after Christmas.

Regards,
Jay

Okanagan desert-palms · Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:57 am

Donnie hopefully this isn`t a prelude to the winter ahead.Where is the palm in the pic?
John

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:50 am

That is a hard sight to take

yuccaman · Post by **yuccaman** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:17 pm

I brought the palm in. I will take a photo of it. The palm does not look to good and I had to cut some fans off.

Barrie · Post by **Barrie** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:13 pm

70f today, although those days are numbered. I heard the Great Lakes area near Bufallo got a snow dump. Man... that's a drag for those folks.

Cheers, Barrie (Vancouver Island)

nlafrance3 · Post by **nlafrance3** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:30 pm

We had our first snow that stuck this morning here in Edm, Alb but it has already melted. It was on the ground for a couple hours. My windmill palm doesn't seem to mind the below 0c wet weather yet. It seems to be still growing out a new fan. It has seen around -4c as a low so far and its in a pot. I need to bring it in if it gets much lower then that because of it not being able to handle much cold weather in a pot, but once I plant it next spring or the spring after, it will see some brutal weather in an Edmonton winter.

Barrie · Post by **Barrie** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:12 am

nlafrance ... you're Trachycarpus is a long way out of it's growth range in Edmonton. Some folks even in zone 7 experience damage and periodic killing. How do you plan on keeping this alive? Winter protection methods would be extreme in zone 3a.

Cheers, Barrie.

nlafrance3 · Post by **nlafrance3** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:53 pm

Yea i dont mind that its practically impossible, i still wanna try. Just ask Allen how fun it is to try in Edmonton. We have of the most hours of sunlight of any Canadian city if that helps. And protection won't be needed until late Nov. or early Dec. to probably late Feb or early March. If this warming trend continues, there is basically only a few stretches every year where I will need to protect the windmill. Last year we only reached the -20 mark i think it was 5 times so thats 5 days of the year where i'll need some really mega protection. Much of the winter had days the reached above zero. Besides that I have seen some remarkable performance from the trachy family in Colorado where they have been testing these palms down to -25c so I stay optimistic. These palms will become hardier and hardier the more we try them in colder locations. It may take a long time but Im young so I don't mind trying for another 50 years. Why do you guys try to get washingtonia's and phoenix palms growing in Vancouver? Its obviously because you love them so much and want a challenge. Its the exact same feeling I have for my palms and I won't give up just because everyone says its impossible.

Okanagan desert-palms · Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:15 pm

Nate keep the faith anything can be grown if proper protection measures are used. I would think that the first "2" years would need protection after -12c 10f. or you will see complete defoliation.
John

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:18 pm

I feel for you man.
Down where I am it is very likely we won't see snow at all.
nlafrance3 Your trachy should easily handle -4C. I would get concerned around -7 or -8C in a pot. Well below that if in the ground with overhead protection.

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:07 am

Hey Nate; Chin up. keep up trying to grow palms.

I'd hate to be the only crazy in Edmonton growing Palms.

Allen

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:35 pm

I meant to thank you for the cactus. I was away in Vegas and got back on Monday. It arrived sometime while I was away.

Thanks again

nlafrance3 · Post by **nlafrance3** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:19 am

Oct 27 and no need to take the trachy inside yet, wonderful! Things are looking good right now for the trachy in the pot. I would love to keep it outside for most of November except for the small cold snaps we normally get. I posted new pics of it even though there hasn't been a great deal of progress since I last took pictures, but Allen you should go look at the washy and sabal, im sure you're intested in their progress. I grouped all of the pictures in seperate albums for easy viewing and they now have progress updates from may, august, sept, and oct. Excessive? Perhaps, but not for a palm grower in Edmonton.

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:25 pm

Hey Nate:

I'd like to see how they are doing. Where did you post the pics?

Allen

nlafrance3 · Post by **nlafrance3** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:48 am

yea that might be a good idea of me to post the web address

http://community.webshots.com/user/nlafrance3

Josef · Post by **Josef** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:20 am

First snow this moorning in Czech
Josef
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8392/list3oe5.jpg

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:31 pm

We had our first frost, Oct 30th. Since recording temps this is the earliest frost I have had. I think the earliest before this year was mid November. We hit -1.8C one night. Banana leaves are brown and wilting however hedychium, geraniums and cannas are fine.
Time to go out and protect everything.
Meyer lemon tree is loaded with fruit and made it through the frost with no problems. The Kiwi also is in good shape.
All Palms look fine.

PhilMusa · Post by **PhilMusa** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:06 pm

No snow yet in Toronto, but just an hour drive north of us, they have received plenty. Lowest temp so far -3.8C/25F. These low temps are two weeks earlier than last year.

PALMETTOMAN · Post by **PALMETTOMAN** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:36 pm

Hey boys out there in Edmonton...

Pretty soon you'll be chinookin...keep the faith and keep pushin it...

Palmettomanz6-Ajax, On

PalmsNorth.com

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