My palms (pics)

Yuri · Post by **Yuri** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:42 am

Hi everyone,
as promised, here's some pics of my palms. Not a lot to show yet, I hope in Augsut there'll be more. It's warm here currently, so the palms are outgrowing their damage.
Trachy that survived -11F in Jan. with no protection.

Washy filifera, styrofoam box as protection, no heating.

Chamaerops humilis, I protected it with styrofoam box with 4 layers of fleece as the roof. No heat applied.

Small trachy, planted it this spring

Sabal minor, also in ground since the spring

Regards,
Yuri

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:14 pm

Looking good Yuri

Nice recovery and growth!

Be careful with Sabals that have strap leaves they can be 10-15(f) less hardy then mature fan leaves.

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:04 pm

Very nice thanks for sharing! Are you close to Volinsky Volyn?

Yuri · Post by **Yuri** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:16 pm

Jim, thanks for warning!

Mike, thanks, Volyn is a region in Northwest Ukraine, I'm 550 miles southeast of that region. So really not that close.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:22 pm

Great looking palms!
That first Trachycarpus looks super for going to -11 oF with no protection. Sure you don't mean -11oC?

That Chamearops looks splendid. You protect like I used to (used heat for the first time this winter) and I always lost most of the leaves.
As for Washy, well I gave up on them in the ground a year ago. Maybe I'll try again if I can find a W. filifera.
--Erik

ROBRETI · Post by **ROBRETI** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:48 am

Hi Yuri,

Nice pictures, thanks for posting! Do oyu by any chance have a pic on your styrofoam box and those layers you used? Your palms look convincing and since I have no overwintered my babies yet, I am curious...

Thanks,
Rob

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:05 am

Nice Job Yuri!

Your palms look really good for no heat applied. Do you have many long durations where the weather is below freezing where you live?

You'll surely get some nice growth out of them this year.

Thanks for posting the pictures.

Bill

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:59 am

TerdalFarm wrote:Great looking palms!
As for Washy, well I gave up on them in the ground a year ago. Maybe I'll try again if I can find a W. filifera.
--Erik

Erik

Leave the Washys to us northern growers like me,Bill and Wxman,your to far south

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:48 am

Yuri · Post by **Yuri** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:07 pm

Thank you for your replies!
Erik, I hope I converted -23.8C to F correctly...that should be -11F! I used google

It's good your chammy is back, and it's nice to be able to use heat. I don't use it because there's a danger in using the electricity - you never know when the power outage is going to happen. As for w. filifera - you should definately give them a shot!

Rob, I do have the pics of the boxes, I'll post them as soon as I find them on my old laptop. I hope your palms grow good and healthy!

Bill, thanks! We usually drop low wnen the Siberian High comes without an invitation, and it's usually pushed away in a day or two. On average, there's 3 to 5 nights in winter when the lows are extreme (below -13C or so). But this winter has been a very cold one, we got two like weeks (13 days to be correct) below freezing, starting with -1/-3 C, and then it went all the way down to -23.8C one night, and not rising above -17 next day. A real killer and a lot of lost grapevines and peach trees this year.
During the previous cold spell my trachy survived -15C with no protection and no damage. Here's a pic of it after -15C w/ no protection:

Corrosion · Post by **Corrosion** » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:47 pm

G'day Yuri! Everything looks good. Haven't been on this board for a while. Nice to see that things are going nicely here. My newly planted trachy is already growing and making some new leaves.

anttisepp · Post by **anttisepp** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:23 pm

Hi Yuri,
many thanks for sharing the photos of your super extreme palms. They all look really great. I think that with regular watering and fertilizing all of them will successfully recover this summer. It could be useful to use some kind of mulch (e.g. wood saw / shawing / bark) to protect the soil from overheating and drying. It's always very interesting to see the plants pictures at the end of the season.
Regards,
Antti

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:42 pm

Yuri, since you said it's normally only 3 to 5 nights below -13C most winters, that is the clincher.
(Despite your cold winter this year).
It's the number of consecutive days at or near the max low.
Also your yard seems to have considerable protection from fencing or buildings nearby, which reflect warmth.

I guess you're easily 1 full zone better than my location.
Nice to know it's possible with no heat.
But not here.

Thanks for the pics.
Barb

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:05 pm

Thanks for the response Yuri, the picture you tried to post of -15c didn't work for some reason. I would love to see it.

Bill

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:07 pm

Nice!, those palms are going to look very good in a few years.

Yuri · Post by **Yuri** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:35 pm

Thanks everyone, been away for a while, sorry for no response. The yard is indeed protected from the north side a bit, but the buildings aren't very high. I was thinking about some mulch, but decided to wait for the soil to warm up and put it later. The rains are rare guests here, so it should be helpful.
Some images:
5F aftermath repost

and here's the trachy after a week of below freezing and 18F as a low temp.:

The boxes at the work. No better pics of them, sorry, I'll take them tomorrow, and closer.

ROBRETI · Post by **ROBRETI** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:43 am

Hi Yuri,

Thanks for the picks. Question: did you put something around your plants before putting the boxes above them? I have never overwintered a palm, so I am starting to be anxious, now that I have only 5 months left...

Thanks again!
Rob