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Question:
I have had about 25-30 CIDP & Phoe. Dachy seedlings for about a year now. To this day, all but one have either 2 or 3 strap leaves (the one has four strap leaves). I thought these were supposed to be fairly fast growers. Am I wrong? I had them in 6" tall styrafoam cups and just repotted them up to about half gallon pots. Will this speed them up???

Advise:
With Fall coming on, should I go ahead and try to shock my Cycads into flushing again, or should I leave them be until next year?

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It's College Football time of the year. You will see much less of me :cry:


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Post by Cali-wanna-b »

Kansas

I also have a few CIDP and Ture Date. All of mine are about a year old and have 3-4 leaves. All are in 1 gal. pots. I think yours are right on schedule. Sorry I can not comment on the sago.
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Really, thats great news actually. Now I don't feel so worried.
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Post by Norm »

How do you shock your sago into flushing again. Mine has been in full sun all summer and is only about to flush now. Is there a way of shocking them into flushing?
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How do you shock your sago into flushing again. Mine has been in full sun all summer and is only about to flush now. Is there a way of shocking them into flushing?
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I throw about 1 cup of 2-3 year old cow manure. Works every time. If you do not have access to a dairy farm, simply knock on a local farmers door. I am sure they won't turn you down as they need to clean out the barns once or twice a year anyways.
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A lot less stinky way of inducing a flush is by watering with one teaspoon of ammonium sulphate dissolved into one gallon of water.
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Stevea07 wrote:A lot less stinky way of inducing a flush is by watering with one teaspoon of ammonium sulphate dissolved into one gallon of water.
Actually 2-3 year old cow manure has no smell and is 100% cheaper (it's free) than ammonium sulphate :lol:
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Thanks for the responses. Why does the manure need to be so old?
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Too young and it might burn the tree. 2-3 year old manure is really dry and dusty.
My family is well known in the "Ole Blue Valley" which is just north of Manhattan Kansas. They owned much of the land which is now "Tuttle Creek Damn". There is a sign on the Hiway that reads "White's Canyon", "In memory of John White" that points to the area (I am John White's Great Grandson). Anyways, an agriculture study was done by the United States Government and was reported that the "Ole Blue Valley" was the richest, most nutrient soil in all of Kansas, which was result of my family (The White's) farming the land and having the rich nutrients from Cow Manure spread over the land for so many years.
My family would always take the cleaning from the Dairy Barns, Calf barns and Bull barns and use a manure spreader to spread the manure thru out the farmed land. This has been reported in that report I spoke of earlier and is said to be many times stronger than chemical fertalizers.
The key is NOT to use too new of manure, or too old manure (old manure looks like clumpy dirt, new manure looks like, welllllll....) Two-three year old is powder when dry, when you add water is clumps and you can see the urine in drainage out the bottm of the pots.
Actually since this thread was started, I did put some on my cycads and two of the plants I put it on are now flushing (King & Taitungensis).
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Here are the two that flushed right off. You can see the manure in the pots and also the pic of the Tait has the bucket of Manure on the left side of the pic for you to see what 2-3 year old manure looks like.

King (second flush since June)
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Here is a generalized NPK breakdown on cow manure,

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