Question and pics of new Washys from B.C

Arctic Palm · Post by **Arctic Palm** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:26 pm

The question is this, these came over night from B.C. When I took them out of the box they looked very beat up. I have taken some pics and would like some feedback from you. Perhaps since they were over nighted they were in a airplane and froze? I don't know.

Any thoughts would be great

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Wed May 09, 2007 8:26 pm

They look like they were handled roughly.The Livistona chinensis that I got from Home Depot looked almost as bad. It took about a week before the permanent damage showed on the palm fronds. It may take as long for you to determine the actual damage.

Where did you get the palms?

Allen

Arctic Palm · Post by **Arctic Palm** » Wed May 09, 2007 8:40 pm

Alchris,

I got them from tropic to Tropic in B.C www.tropic.ca
If they were removed from thier container yesterday and shipped they would not be showing signs of shock that bad this early would they?

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Wed May 09, 2007 10:53 pm

I am pretty inexperienced compared to others on this forum. Your palms look a little limp/wilted which could be as a result of bare rooting them. The fronds look like the palm was picked up by the pot and shook hard.

The only comparison that I have is Home Depot staff digging my 4' Chinese fan Palm out of the middle of 4 pallets tightly covered with 4' to 6' majesty palms etc.. They were none to gentle and the palm ended up looking about half as shook as your palms.

I'll try to take a pic of it tomorrow and post it for you to look at.

I think that Washies are pretty tough and should recover quickly.

Allen

ryan · Post by **ryan** » Thu May 10, 2007 7:20 am

Alchris wrote:I am pretty inexperienced compared to others on this forum. Your palms look a little limp/wilted which could be as a result of bare rooting them. The fronds look like the palm was picked up by the pot and shook hard.

Allen

I agree with Allen. The palms were not handled with care. The plants look healthy and should recover fine.

Arctic Palm · Post by **Arctic Palm** » Thu May 10, 2007 9:22 am

They do look ruff. I have given them lots of water and they are in the sun. I guess we'll see. For the money I paid I expected better.

There is a article about me in the Hamilton Spectator if anyone wants to look

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp ... 4656511815

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:32 am

You definitely look a little older in the Newspaper picture.

Congratulations on the recognition.

Here is the pic of my Home depot palm.

Downsized

And full sized so that you can see the browning of the damaged areas

Allen

Arctic Palm · Post by **Arctic Palm** » Thu May 10, 2007 11:44 am

Alchris,

Yes, I age 30 years every day. I spoke to Ray who owns Tropis to Tropic. He said that those washy's just came out of the "cold house" they were in and need sun and warmth. They look a little better today so I assume they just need some attention and sun. Both are in major abundance here.

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Thu May 10, 2007 11:50 am

I was really happy with the yuccas and bamboo that I got from him last year. The yuccas took a beating over winter. Not his fault that I plant zone 5 stuff in zone 3b.

Allen

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu May 10, 2007 8:25 pm

Arctic Palm, nice story about you in the paper. Congrats on bringing palms to Hamilton! I loved the part about people driving past, coming back with other passengers to look. Cool!

I don't have the experience of most folks here, but those pics apart from the rough handling look like cold damage. Where would they have gotten frost? A couple of the "stained" branches look mushy from ? frost?
Did they arrive airmail? Or get tousled around in the back of a reefer for 6 days?

But I agree w everyone that they'll do great once they're in warmth.
They'll really take off with your TLC.

SORRY just saw that you said it was overnite. Obviously airmail. Bloody cold up there at 30,000 feet.
Barb

nlafrance3 · Post by **nlafrance3** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:50 am

Allen:

That chinese fan palm is said to be good as a die-back perennial for zones as cold as zone 5 if well mulched. Is that what you are hoping to do with it? And I was reading the magazine Alberta Gardener yesterday. Apparantly Greengate Greenhouses in Calgary carry Yucca Rostrata's now.

Nate

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Fri May 11, 2007 7:54 am

Hey Nate;

The Chinese Fan Palm was bought as a back up in case I couldn't get decent sized palms for the front or back yard. I was going to use them in the knock down greenhouses. I appreciate the info on them. I may just put it with the Sabal minors in the unheated GH in front of the garage.

After the winter and early spring, I am more interested in Y. elata. Thanks for the info. I am going to phone Greengate greenhouses and see if they carry anything else.

Allen

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Wed May 16, 2007 11:03 pm

Congrats on the newspaper article.

Good luck with your palms may they live a long life.

nlafrance3 · Post by **nlafrance3** » Thu May 17, 2007 5:38 am

Allen,

I got absolutely no help from the staff when I phoned Greengate but thats pretty typical for an Albertan greenhouse. They had no clue what a yucca was and tried to describe over the phone what they had. Oh well...maybe you'll have better luck then me.