Yucca, zone 4

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:20 pm

A few pictures of the Yucca in my cactus bed:

Part I:
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Part II:
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Part III:
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Part IV:
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Some plants:
filata x elata
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Seed grown "elata", which are probably Yucca glauca. now have just over a foot of trunk:
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Yucca recurvfolia x filata
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Yucca thompsoniana x filata "Big Mama"
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Yucca arkansana (I think):
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More thompsoniana hybrids:
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Yucca filata F2 plants:
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Can't recall the cross, Yucca (rupicola? or similar) x thompsoniana:
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An Echinocereus volunteer, probably entering winter 3 based on size.
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Real Yucca elata:
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These are all Yucca gloriosa grown from Tennesee seed:
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flaccida x thompsoniana:
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Opuntia engelmanii "hardy form" O.P. seedlings:
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Thanks for looking! USDA Zone 4b near Kingston, ON.

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:56 pm

Also, sorry the pictures are sideways. I should have fixed that.

Edmar · Post by **Edmar** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:39 pm

Hi Paul,
Thank you for sharing pics of your yuccas, great pics! I loved how you showed an overall view of the place and then closeups of every yucca.

if you don't mind me asking a few questions: -how old are your seed grown elatas(or glaucas)? I really love the small trunks, I hope their trunks continue to grow lots more.....is your y. arkansana seed grown?(great looking specimen) if it is, it should have similar hardiness as filamentosa right? also I see that your gloriosas look really nice & hardy to your zone, do you think my 2 hybrids recurvifolia X arkansana(oklahoma) could be hardy to my zone? for the moment I'm keeping them in pots and will spend their first winter indoors, I may try leaving one in the ground next year to pass the winter test.....it's always great to see pics of other yucca enthusiasts, especially from a similar zone, thanks!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:04 pm

Paul, all your yuccas look great! Very healthy yuccas.

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:43 am

The seed grown "elatas" are maybe 8 (10?) years old now. They were moved once.

The arkansana came from a small plant I got from an American friend in Missouri. It's really put on size in the last 2 years. I'd say similar in hardiness to filamentosa, so hardy here but a lack of snow can burn the leaves in a cold winter.

The Y. gloriosa are what remains from a large number of seedlings I grew from seed sent by a friend in Tennessee. I'm still skeptical of their long term survival here, but for now they look amazing. They will burn in the winter, and I have a feeling that they'll rot when they start to form trunks.

recurvfolia x arkansana sounds like the sort of cross that could produce a hardy plant. Better to plant them larger for added hardiness.

I have a lot of rostrata hybrids that will be planted next spring. I don't know where to plant them, I'm running out of room.

Edmar · Post by **Edmar** » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:17 am

Thank you for your reply Paul, I guess I will have to be very patient if I want to see a trunk in any of my hybrids

.....compared to you I'm already very tight in garden space, I tried to leave at least 2 feet of space between yuccas but it's gonna look very crowded in 3-4 years!

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:30 pm

Great update Paul!!

Are you finding the F2 filata's Hardy? How about the Y. thomp x big mama?

I'm curious how those Hardy Engelmaniis will fair when larger. It's nice to see them alive!

Great garden. Keep the updates coming

PS how are the Rhodos's?

905palms · Post by **905palms** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:43 am

Great Garden Paul! A new neighbor moved in and dug up all the (what I think) are Filimentosa for the most part. I've transplanted them to my garden, I and hope they take. I hear the Fall is the best time to transplant...
I'll post pics, perhaps you can ID them.
Cheers
Dan

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:52 am

Dan, Almost certainly they;d be filamentosa in the GTA. The only other Yucca that I've seen around are Y. glauca, but these would have very narrow, sharp leaves.

Tim- I'll tell you in the spring how hardy stuff seems to be! Many of the plants look like crap in April, but recover by June. I'm hoping that it's just a small plant thing.

The Rhodies are looking OK now. I'm not going to wrap any of them this winter, if they're not hardy at this point they aren't going to be useful for me!

Here are a few of the pictures, mostly of the seedlings.
"Sandra Hinton" x macbeanum:

Unlabelled, probably just random speices:

Auriculatum hybrids:

This is R. catawbiense x R. rex v. fictolacteum AKA "Holdens Spring Herald". Supposed to be a zone 5 plant with very large leaves. This one has been here 2 years now:

Aaaannnd, Sandra hinton showing it's fall colour:

Indocalamus, not sure how tough this will end up being. Supposed to have the biggest leaves of any hardy bamboo, supposed to be a zone 5 plant?

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:31 am

Very nice variety of yuccas. Y'all starting to make me like yuccas again.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:32 am

I don't know how I missed your "hardy" Opuntia engelmannii. Is this their first winter or their second.

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:30 am

The "Hardy" engenmanii are going in to their second winter. Obvioulsy they are still very small so I don't know how hardy they will prove to be.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:44 am

Paul Ont wrote:The "Hardy" engenmanii are going in to their second winter. Obvioulsy they are still very small so I don't know how hardy they will prove to be.

That's amazing.

I would think they are going to be just fine.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:26 pm

Loads of Rhodos Paul! I hope the SH x macabeanum is Hardy for you. Please let us know how they fair this winter. I have a few hybrids outside too most with Rex or macabeanum genes in them. Only time will tell

Here's a species out for testing, R arboreum v cinnamon

Here's a Rex hybrid from seed from John Weagle

Here's a species R auriculatum from seed

Another Rex hybrid from JW seed

A R manikoi X rex hybrid

Many more too

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:41 pm

Tim,

What are the crosses that John sent your way? I visited NS this past summer, and saw John for the first time in (perhaps?) 3 years? Some really interesting plants at his place in Halifax, but apparently the property in the south west of the province (solid zone 7) is something else, I hope that I'll be able to make it down there at some point!

There's a BVT x arboreum v. cinn cross, now named 'Joseph Brueckner', that I hope will become available at some point soon. I gave JW some pollen from it a few years ago and he crossed it on to Rex at least. Unfortunately, the I only had 2 seeds germinate, both of which failed quickly. Apparently John still has some!

IMO any cross with makinoi is worthwhile, it is a really cool looking plant. I'd imagine that a cross with rex would make a plant with leaves a foot+ x 1". We'll see.

I hope auriculatum will be hardy for you, I think it will. I'm hoping the F1's can make it up here!

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:38 am

Great garden and collection of cold hardy Yuccas and Cacti. Very inspirational.