Infant (SP) operations unit

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Wed May 07, 2014 5:02 pm

Smallest planted palm I have tried trunk cutting on...T.Takil.
helps to have a viable candidate.
This was cut May/6/14

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This was planted deeper and was smaller,not losing your spear has its advantages...

Look at that textbook Takil ligule,even on this baby.

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hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri May 16, 2014 5:41 am

Takil right after it was cut.

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Here is the baby Takil a week after cutting....not out of the woods yet but a good start.
Dime next to it.

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lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri May 16, 2014 10:19 am

Nice bounce back Jim.
Hadn't expected a Takil to get hit so hard by winter with all the work you do to protect stuff.

Glad it'll live to grow up.

Nice work as always.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Fri May 16, 2014 8:36 pm

Damn Jim you are a good palm doctor!

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat May 17, 2014 7:36 am

Thx ya'all

Those are small palms,keep in mind they are nowhere near as hardy
as larger palms and are very difficult to get through winter at that size.

I think one issue is,the T-cube was in the Washy cover which is translucent and heats up in sunlight...
the Takil cover is styro-foam and only will give you +10F on a sunny day...very possible the Washy was
just over the temp threshold for the t-cube to kick on(with outside temps around zero and sun) and the
the Takil may have been sitting at 10F for hours while the sun kept the heat off,same with the Butia,the spear
is dried up on it-all in all,I think they did well when you consider they all saw cold and the temps from 95F to 130F
inside the covers before I got home-anything with spear-pull had almost no chance with that kind of heat and a damaged spear.

My smaller Princeps rotted to the ground and my C.Cerifera just barely held on the its last spear!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat May 17, 2014 8:38 am

You make a good point, Jim, about thermocube location, in addition to your being away for an extended period of time.

I ended up moving my thermocube into the B. armata enclosure (from the Washy), despite them having the same type of cover.

My smaller Princeps rotted to the ground

That hurts, big time.

Barb

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:57 pm

Hey

at least the big Princeps made it!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat May 17, 2014 4:53 pm

Certainly great that the big Princeps made it through.

But it's the losses, especially of smaller specimens, I feel sad about.
What a difference another year or two would've made.
That little one was such a trooper.

Barb

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun May 18, 2014 4:58 am

For sure,it will be missed but not for long...I did replace it with a B.Armata with stunning blue color...better than the Princeps.

Gotta find a place for a T.Manipur today!

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sun May 18, 2014 7:56 am

Jim,

I take it yours is in the ground like your others? How I would love to try one in the ground....not sure if I can take the chance.

In California now with my truck and grabbing some stuff from collectors and box stores and going to bring home one of these beauties.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun May 18, 2014 2:06 pm

B.Armata with stunning blue color...better than the Princeps. icon_cool.gif

Agree armatas are fabulous.
But there's something so special about the shape of princeps fronds right from a young age.
My first year overwintered B.armata is putting out its second leaf, but new leaves tend to look green.

Scott, those are super...wow.

Barb

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sun May 18, 2014 2:23 pm

Who knows maybe I'll buy two?

Wish they had some smaller one to experiment with

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun May 18, 2014 5:01 pm

That was what I saw too...I looked around and found a smaller one for $17

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sun May 18, 2014 5:06 pm

Trust me, I think I've hit every walmart, Lowe's and Home Depot within 50 miles.

3 gallon CIDP for $9.98(bought two)
3 Gallon European Fan Palm(green) $14.98 1 Gallon European Fans for $6.95 Going to plant the 3 gallon in the ground and see if I have luck with over wintering it.

Brooklands · Post by **Brooklands** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:26 am

I am glad to see the little guy growing out the damage. Did you spray it with copper fungicide or anything?

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:50 am

No need...once its opened up the fungal infection is out in the fresh air and light..

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sat May 24, 2014 9:16 am

Great results, much better than I have been having this spring.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat May 24, 2014 11:36 am

Hey Brooklands, welcome aboard PN!

Nice to see another west coaster Canuck.
Look forward to seeing your tropicals.

Barb

Brooklands · Post by **Brooklands** » Sat May 24, 2014 8:54 pm

Thanks Barb,

Just got in from planting a 4 ft CIDP at the Cottage at Harrison Hot Springs. With the wicked arctic outflows we get out here, I may just be trying Jim's surgery technique next spring. Kinda hilarious that it's hot and sunny, and I am already back to thinking about styrofoam...lol.

Cheers,
Phil

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun May 25, 2014 5:16 am

Definitely something to have in the back of your mind at all times when planting palms.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sun May 25, 2014 6:57 am

Brooklands.....what kind of winters do you experience there to plant a CIDP? and how will you protect it? what is your zone?

Picked up a couple small ones on my road trip to California and thought about planting in the ground as well.......

Brooklands · Post by **Brooklands** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:58 am

The zone here (Harrison) is a bit worse than Vancouver, but has horrible arctic blasts for a few days every few years, so the full styrofoam box, C9 or CFL routine will be needed. If that works for more than a few years, I am going to have a big problem.

Brooklands · Post by **Brooklands** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:03 am

Jim,

Curious to know more about the surgery. How do you know how far to cut without going too deep into the bud? I have tried the drilling thing before, but was always scared to go deep enough.

Did you just keep cutting till the mush was gone, or is it more of a planned operation.
........Phil

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun May 25, 2014 10:04 am

wicked arctic outflows we get out here

Phil, many of the folks on PN are from the eastern half of US and Canada so they'll laugh at THAT comment after their winter.

C-9s definitely.
The ones we BCers aren't allowed to buy any more.

Look forward to seeing your CIDP.
I planted mine last month after it lived in big garbage can for years and years.
Nothing but roots in the can, so it was time.

Barb

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun May 25, 2014 3:58 pm

Brooklands wrote:Jim,

Curious to know more about the surgery. How do you know how far to cut without going too deep into the bud? I have tried the drilling thing before, but was always scared to go deep enough.

Did you just keep cutting till the mush was gone, or is it more of a planned operation.
........Phil

It has pushed out a little sawed off petiole and a tiny half leaf,should be a little "spear" come up next.

I saw a little at a time until I see(or don't see) live tissue....

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun May 25, 2014 8:04 pm

Here da goods....

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