Newly planted Sabal's

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:47 am

Had both a McCurtin and Cape Hatteras Sabal that I bought this spring from Steve Anderson and both had been in the grow pots they came in and after reading here in posts about Sabal's not doing as well in pots as they would in the ground decided to plant them up.

Both will be somewhat protected by the house, but will take steps to protect them more this winter. The Cape Hatteras I put 6ft of heat tape surrounding the root ball in the hole.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:23 am

Nice plants...

Good idea to protect them as well. Ive wiped out "hardy" plants here because I didnt protect them better the first winter like juniper (yes, I killed juniper).

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:40 am

This spring we had a huge setback because we had one last snow the first week of MAY! (has never happened in the 54 years I've lived here) quite a few of my potted palms were out on the patio already, and stuff in the ground was uncovered. The weight of the snow since it was so wet, broke fronds and branches, then the fungus came and damaged some more. Most have done a great job in recovery, but you can still see some damage.

Maybe you had a similar spring and it was a surprise to the Juniper?....although, I didn't think anything killed them!

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:42 am

This spring we had a huge setback because we had one last snow the first week of MAY! (has never happened in the 54 years I've lived here) quite a few of my potted palms were out on the patio already, and stuff in the ground was uncovered. The weight of the snow since it was so wet, broke fronds and branches, then the fungus came and damaged some more. Most have done a great job in recovery, but you can still see some damage.

Maybe you had a similar spring and it was a surprise to the Juniper?....although, I didn't think anything killed them!

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:17 pm

Very nice palms you got there. I have not tried either of those two. But the McCurtin at Plant Delights is beautiful. If that Cape Hatteras is in a very sunny spot its hardiness might surprise you.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:26 am

The Cape Hatteras will get a lot of morning sun, and will protect both of them with a cover this winter.

andym · Post by **andym** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:21 pm

Scott.... there's a guy over here in the UK who uses heated cables in the ground. This warms up the soil a lot and he has better than average growth with his Minor .... they aren't that quick over here and you are lucky to get more than two leaves in a season. Never heard of the Cape Hatteras form before. I have two Sabals... a Minor and an unknown. Can you or anyone else identify this Sabal. Grows really well here four leaves this year and no Winter damage except for one spear that refused to open.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:01 pm

andym.....I'm not versed well enough in palm identification to name that Sabal.

I too use the heat tape cables around the root ball to help keep the roots from freezing in the winter weather. The ones here in the states have a built in thermostat much like a Thermocube works with a indicator light so you can see at a glance if it's on.

Zabola · Post by **Zabola** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:25 am

[quote="andym"Can you or anyone else identify this Sabal. Grows really well here four leaves this year and no Winter damage except for one spear that refused to open.

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Is your unknown bluer than ordinary minor? Maybe Blackburn or Birmingham

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:10 am

The smaller one that is in the ground? It's a Mc Curtin.

Zabola · Post by **Zabola** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:59 am

No no, I was answering andym question, tried to guess what kind of Sabal that is.. anyway nice Sabals sashaeffer, both Mccurtain & Birmingham share that blue grey tone also Brazoriensis don't they?

andym · Post by **andym** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:47 pm

Zabola wrote:[quote="andym"Can you or anyone else identify this Sabal. Grows really well here four leaves this year and no Winter damage except for one spear that refused to open.

Is your unknown bluer than ordinary minor? Maybe Blackburn or Birmingham

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Could be Birmingham whatever Birmingham originated from. Leaves do look more blue and perhaps wider than my Minor. There are also filaments on the leaves. I had so much rain at the beginning of last Winter the leaves were covered in algae

Apologies Scott for interrupting your thread.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:10 pm

Scott,
glad to hear! Keep us updated on those the next year. --Erik

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:18 am

I will. I'm sure the Mc Curtain will do ok, but really hope the Cape Hatteras makes it. It's a larger, nice looking Sabal.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:24 am

Well, even the McCurtain will defoliate with air temps like you get every winter, so I'd plan to protect the leaves as well when it is really cold.

sashaeffer · Post by **sashaeffer** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:30 am

I plan on it. Will have a short 1/2 barrel around it with some straw and cover.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:09 am

nice plants........keep the updates coming on those beauties.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:40 pm

Yeah, those blue Sabal leaves are truly lovely.
Nice big one Andy.

Good idea for winter protection, Scott.

Mine can be the "test"...they're staying in pots

Barb