Beginning the germination process! - Part II
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Hi Barb,
I think you have every palm in the entire world so the N.arabic 'silver' was the last one you didn't have.
I think you have every palm in the entire world so the N.arabic 'silver' was the last one you didn't have.
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Great results, Barb!
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Tim, I think it's my goal to have one of each.have every palm in the entire world
At least the blue palms and yuccas.
I think you're working on the same with yuccas!
A noble challenge.
Thanks Cameron!
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She doesnt have the most popular palm of them all: Dypsis Lutescens (chrysalidocarpus formarly) also known as butterfly palm or areca palmTimMAz6 wrote:Hi Barb,
I think you have every palm in the entire world so the N.arabic 'silver' was the last one you didn't have.
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Nannorrhops ritchiana germination problem
The first seed that germinated seemed to lift itself up off the soil, then the sinker shrivelled up and died:
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This second seed is going to be standing on its head too. Anybody have this happen with nanny?
Should I throw more soil on top?
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These seeds were originally 2/3 buried, lying horizontally...
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This second seed is going to be standing on its head too. Anybody have this happen with nanny?
Should I throw more soil on top?
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These seeds were originally 2/3 buried, lying horizontally...
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Barb, I had this happen a couple of times. I would keep more soil over the seeds, and keep the soil a little less moist (unless you had just watered it before the photo) in the future!
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Thanks Cameron.keep more soil over the seeds
How do we know which ones to bury deeper and which to do as usual?
I've read tons of info, yet that kind of stuff is always missing.
yup...was trying to get it to sink back down into its own holeunless you had just watered it before the photo
These seeds are like moles.
Appreciate the help.
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I dont think there is a rule to tell how deep to bury seeds. Very generally speaking small seeds need to be sown on top of the soil, but large seeds depends. Cycad does better half buried, where as according to your pics, the richina has to be completely buried.
I guess trial and error. The internet seems to be missing tons of info when it comes to plants.
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I've done mostly half-buried of palm and cycad seeds.small seeds need to be sown on top of the soil,
Probably a desire to see something happening early on.
Some cycad seeds climb out of the soil too, but settle in well and I've never lost one to that phenomenon.
Here's Cycas debaoensis trying to walk away:
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I recall Adam saying he buries all his palm seeds.
Likely to prevent what's happening to my Nanny seeds.
Dumped some soil on top of the Nannorrhops ritchiana seed.
This morning it was coming through that.
Maybe they're related to mushrooms...
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I tend to bury all of my palm seeds, and only half-bury cycad seeds. Like you said, Barb, cycads seem to cope better even when they're pushing themselves off of the soil surface!
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Yeah, I should've too with this variety.tend to bury all of my palm seeds,
I added an inch of soil, and here he is again going for a walk.
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....a leash maybe.
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lookin' good Barb...............how long did it take to get the RPS? I'm still waiting for my seed.
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Tim, I think RPS took 5 weeks...maybe 6.
Got hung up in Christmas mail, my fault for ordering late.
You're still waiting for yours?
Do you still have your Order Confirmation email?
Maybe reply to that, stating it's not arrived yet.
They're good at getting back to people pronto.
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Got hung up in Christmas mail, my fault for ordering late.
You're still waiting for yours?
Do you still have your Order Confirmation email?
Maybe reply to that, stating it's not arrived yet.
They're good at getting back to people pronto.
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I think it' only been about 4 weeks...........I'll have to check the date of order.
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I second what barb says. I ordered mine a few days before hers and they showed up roughly 6 weeks after. If you ordered them in december, theyre probably just back ordered at RPS, or backed up a bit in shipping. Give em 2 more weeks.
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Arbutus unedo seedlings sown oct 2012. Seeds were collected fall of 2011 and were in the fridge for a year. Oops!
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Year long sleep obviously helped
Gorgeous arbutus, had to look it up.
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They'd make lovely patio trees.
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They'd make lovely patio trees.
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Nice work, Adam! That's a long stratification
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yes........it looks like that long stratification really did the job!
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Happy to report that Sabal minor "McCurtain" are germinating (but still too small to photograph).
And the Nannorrhops arabica (silver) and N. ritchiana are doing well.
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Just watered them, soil pretty wet for now.
The woodstove's heat dries them out fast.
Absolutely LOVE the 14-inch tree pots!
Barb
And the Nannorrhops arabica (silver) and N. ritchiana are doing well.
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Just watered them, soil pretty wet for now.
The woodstove's heat dries them out fast.
Absolutely LOVE the 14-inch tree pots!
Barb
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Barb, that's great to hear about the S. minor "McCurtain" germination. Hopefully you can try these outdoors in ~5 years with no heated protection
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I'll put it on my daytimer that you and I will do that.try these outdoors in ~5 years
Obviously very fresh seeds and they like the woodstove heat.
Some of the other seeds I ordered are trying my patience yet again...
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Well, kittens CAN fly.
Ta da...drumroll:
After years of trying, got a Cyrtostachys renda (red sealing wax palm) to pop
looks damaged, I think I clunked it with the cover:
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And 3 Sabal minor McCurtain are now up:
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And the Kumquats...(now what do I do with them? )
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Life is good again.
Barb
Ta da...drumroll:
After years of trying, got a Cyrtostachys renda (red sealing wax palm) to pop
looks damaged, I think I clunked it with the cover:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/southslope/8502023066/" title="001 by edible_plum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8502 ... e17f_c.jpg" width="600" height="800" alt="001"></a>
And 3 Sabal minor McCurtain are now up:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/southslope/8502027698/" title="002 by edible_plum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8369/8502 ... 94bf_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="002"></a>
And the Kumquats...(now what do I do with them? )
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Life is good again.
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Nice work, Barb! Those "McCurtains" look great. Kumquats are one of the best citrus for indoor growing, good luck!
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Barb thats awesome about the wax palm... Im like that with ensete, I cant get those to germinate for the life of me.
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Thanks folks.
Mommy duties (to seedlings) ...fuss, fuss, fuss.
Mommy duties (to seedlings) ...fuss, fuss, fuss.
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Got a few Citrumelo 'Swingle' seeds to germinate........thanks to Todd's seed! I wonder which is hardier 'Dustan' or 'Swingle'?
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Good work Tim.
Is that the Todd in the Carolinas ("LaaZ")?
Who names these varieties?
I couldn't try one with the word "dust" in it.
Barb
Is that the Todd in the Carolinas ("LaaZ")?
Who names these varieties?
I couldn't try one with the word "dust" in it.
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Hi Barb..........yes that's Laaz......he's a citrus guru.
I think 'Swingle' was a citrus professional working for USDA and/or universities many years ago......if my memory is correct. Many people tried to hybridize a good tasting citrus with Poncirus trifoliata and 'Swingle' is one of their attempts................I hope I got that right.............I have a good memory but it's short.
I think 'Swingle' was a citrus professional working for USDA and/or universities many years ago......if my memory is correct. Many people tried to hybridize a good tasting citrus with Poncirus trifoliata and 'Swingle' is one of their attempts................I hope I got that right.............I have a good memory but it's short.
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Tim, just think of the yucca varieties you could name...Timma
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Tim, just think of the yucca varieties you could name...Timma
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Tim, you're right about Swingle! Nice work.
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We've been having some great successes with medjool date palms grown from seed here. We love eating dates. And now grow them too.
We have had some sabal 'mccurtain' seeds for quite some time now with zero success. Until now. We saved the seeds from two failed attempts. Took them, cleaned them. Put them in a moist paper towel in a sealed container. Checked weekly for signs of germination. Two of six did. Just over a month ago while in the container atop our furnace ducting.
Potted those two up. Misted daily. A week ago chose to keep covered tightly. And yesterday, when I checked, there was the first leaf!! Never had luck with any sabal before but now I feel I know the ways of getting it done. This is how I had success with the date palms.
Just so happy about the mccurtain babies.
We have had some sabal 'mccurtain' seeds for quite some time now with zero success. Until now. We saved the seeds from two failed attempts. Took them, cleaned them. Put them in a moist paper towel in a sealed container. Checked weekly for signs of germination. Two of six did. Just over a month ago while in the container atop our furnace ducting.
Potted those two up. Misted daily. A week ago chose to keep covered tightly. And yesterday, when I checked, there was the first leaf!! Never had luck with any sabal before but now I feel I know the ways of getting it done. This is how I had success with the date palms.
Just so happy about the mccurtain babies.
Adam
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- Arctic Palm Plantation
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Congrats on the McCurtain germination, Adam.
Four of mine have germinated, and I'm thrilled.
In comparison, any Phoenix seeds are like shooting fish in a barrel.
Had almost 90% germination on my Medjool and Deglet Noor seeds.
If they're in community pots, get 'em out of there fast, as roots can easily be 14" long, very fleshy, and intertwine to such a degree that it's tough to get them apart.
But phoenix species are forgiving if roots are chopped, generally no setback at all.
Sabals are slugs for speed, moving about the same rate.
Barb
Four of mine have germinated, and I'm thrilled.
In comparison, any Phoenix seeds are like shooting fish in a barrel.
Had almost 90% germination on my Medjool and Deglet Noor seeds.
If they're in community pots, get 'em out of there fast, as roots can easily be 14" long, very fleshy, and intertwine to such a degree that it's tough to get them apart.
But phoenix species are forgiving if roots are chopped, generally no setback at all.
Sabals are slugs for speed, moving about the same rate.
Barb
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anyone try germinating an Almond? Here's my attempt.
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Never thought of it, Tim.
So commercial crops aren't grafted onto a rootstock?
Your daughter will have that for a snack today.
Barb
So commercial crops aren't grafted onto a rootstock?
Your daughter will have that for a snack today.
Barb
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Hi Barb,
it appears Almond trees are hardy to zone 6b/7b? If this seed germinates I'll plant it outside to see if it can survive.
Here's an update on the Citrumelo 'Swingle' seedlings.
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it appears Almond trees are hardy to zone 6b/7b? If this seed germinates I'll plant it outside to see if it can survive.
Here's an update on the Citrumelo 'Swingle' seedlings.
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never give up on seeds...............a Yuzu citrus FINALLY germinated. Yuzu seems to like bottom heat......they did not germinate at room temperature (for the past 4 months).
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Tim - Yes. I cracked the shells a bit and soaked them. Took a month. I read they germ faster with cold stratification. Expect around a foot of growth at least. Mine survived to the snowline. I got rid of it for that reason. Ive seen them rated fr zone 5.
Grats on the Yuzu!!!!
Grats on the Yuzu!!!!
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