Yucca brevifolia

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:58 am

Not a mark on them, look like winter never happened. icon_biggrin.gif

Wonderful news, Aaron!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:43 pm

lucky1 wrote:
Not a mark on them, look like winter never happened. icon_biggrin.gif
Wonderful news, Aaron!

Yes..Thank You!

Here's something for people to think about.
Both of these j-trees are the same age, and both have frozen to the ground in the past. The big one has been moved to a better spot and has doubled in size in a year, and the other (small one) was also moved to a better spot last summer. We will see what it does this summer. The point is, if you can a find a spot where they like it they will show it.

And here is the bigger one the year before.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:26 pm

It grew THAT MUCH in one year?

So the first pic was the wrong spot...because it wasn't raised up?
Made it easy for watering though...

New spot over the septic tank by any chance?

I'll pick the best spot for my last y.rostrata ... oh, and I've got the unknown yucca to plant too.

Great comparison pics, Aaron.
Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:56 pm

nice to see the J trees happy in all that cold. What's the good spot?

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:01 pm

lucky1 wrote: So the first pic was the wrong spot...because it wasn't raised up?
Made it easy for watering though...

Barb

Yes, the little one was originally planted on lower ground. It is now on a mound about 4' high.

The bigger one was on a slight slope so it did just a bit better. It is now planted in good gravel mix and on a mound that is over 2' high.

When I dug up the little one it had very little roots, probably rotted off every year in the lower ground. It is true about these j-trees, they need very well drained soil. Drainage is everything.

Sorry I repeat myself so much, I want to help anyone that reads this.

PS I don't think I watered the big one last year, once they start growing good I leave them alone because I don't want to rot them out. Of cource some yuccas don't mind extra water in the summer.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:11 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:nice to see the J trees happy in all that cold. What's the good spot?

Thanks Tim.

The good spots are for the most part just higher ground.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:41 pm

Up close! Looks like new.
http://unkowndestination.blogspot.com/2 ... -door.html

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:00 am

it's great to see the J trees taking so much cold. It makes me want to try another!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:18 am

makes me want to try another

Maybe under a roof overhang, Tim, on the south side?
You certainly have the mild winters for it to succeed if you protect from rain.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:49 am

lucky1 wrote:
makes me want to try another
Maybe under a roof overhang, Tim, on the south side?
You certainly have the mild winters for it to succeed if you protect from rain.

Barb

I would guess back east they may have trouble with root rot? Because I have had trouble with it here.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:00 pm

I recall growing J trees from seeds back about 2000/2001 and under a plastic roof they survived the winter....the next winter they saw more winter precipitation and they rotted out.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:43 pm

Too bad, Tim.
But worth a try again...on a 3-foot tall mound under your eave.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:33 pm

lucky1 wrote:Too bad, Tim.
But worth a try again...on a 3-foot tall mound under your eave.

I agree, if anyone can grow them in the east it will be Tim.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:38 am

I'm thinking a mass planting................one must be more tolerant to moisture!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:09 pm

Yeah, a mass planting in mass.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:13 am

J-tree anyone?

http://unkowndestination.blogspot.com/2 ... st-to.html

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:15 am

Beautiful, Aaron!

It'd be great to hike around there...seed sack in hand

Barb

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:31 am

Gorgeous pics, Aaron! Those J-trees are amazing!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:44 am

Thanks.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:45 am

lucky1 wrote:Beautiful, Aaron!

It'd be great to hike around there...seed sack in hand
Barb

Yes, seed sack in hand.

andym · Post by **andym** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:07 pm

My little baby is alive and kicking after two years in a pot. Rubbish growth mind you

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:58 pm

That's considerably more than a little baby, Andy.
Beauty!

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:02 am

great photo of Y. brevifolia and Y. schidigeras!!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:13 am

andym wrote:My little baby is alive and kicking after two years in a pot. Rubbish growth mind you

Looks good! If your going to plant it outside, I would plant it up high. The roots rot easily.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:20 am

TimMAz6 wrote:great photo of Y. brevifolia and Y. schidigeras!!

Glad you spotted the schidigeras, if you look at the pics they were not seen in the higher elevations, to bad because I would like to find a hardy one.

They are a close relative of baccata(or are they Tim?), but they are not very cold hardy. I did notice in that area they are not as tall as they are north of Vegas.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:35 pm

I don't know much about Y. schidigeras.............I tried a seedling back in 2000 and it died in it's first winter......as far as I know they should be zone 6b hardy out west in dry areas and less hardy in higher moisture areas. Has your friend south of you tried Y. schidigera? They sure look like a trunking baccata but don't have baccata's cold tolerance. There is another form of schidigera down in the San Diego, CA area..........I would like to try one of those too. Y. schidigera is another species I need to do a mass planting!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:46 pm

They might grow in a southern 6b. My friend has tried many of times and I have tried many times even bigger plants with nice trunks, and covered ones. I would say they are as hardy as Y. rigida.
I think you have the right idea of a mass planting or a cross with baccata might work. You would think finding a cross in the wild would be easy because the two grow along side each other.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:45 am

Aaron,

check this out. Temps for Dec. 1990 in Nevada. This is why Y. brevifolia is hardy. What is the coldest temp where they grow.......I'm not familiar with all the town names.

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IP ... BDC7B1.pdf

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:19 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Aaron,

check this out. Temps for Dec. 1990 in Nevada. This is why Y. brevifolia is hardy. What is the coldest temp where they grow.......I'm not familiar with all the town names.

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IP ... BDC7B1.pdf

WOW...some of those places got colder than I thought they would.

I know some of the weather stations within thier range had readings of -18/-20F That's cold! But does not surprise me. I seen one growing in Pocatello Idaho for years that survived winters of -20f or colder. I thought it was fake for years until it keep getting bigger. It was in a raised rail-road-tie bed about 2/3 feet high. If you can keep the roots out of the wet I think they do well.

InsanePalmNinja · Post by **InsanePalmNinja** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:31 pm

I want to get my get my mother one of these. She wants one of these also. I did find some seeding as well. Am going to buy one for her for a late Birthday Persent.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:29 pm

Aaron,

nice Pocatello, ID find.............that location sounds REAL cold. If you see it again please take a photo and slice off an arm for me.

InsanePalmNinja,

please try Y. brevifolia in your climate and let us know how it performs.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:24 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Aaron,

nice Pocatello, ID find.............that location sounds REAL cold. If you see it again please take a photo and slice off an arm for me.

It's been gone for years (1980's) Tim. I always wanted to stop and aks the owners if I could have it, if they ever wanted to get rid of it. Well I never did the house sold and it was gone. I think it was replaced with flowers.

That is why Y. brevifolia was the first yucca I ever grown from seed, that and I could not get a live plant back then.

marceli · Post by **marceli** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:13 am

DesertZone wrote:I did see a few I wanted to dig up and bring home, but there was to many people watching me like a hawk.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:44 pm

Updated pics.

http://unkowndestination.blogspot.com/2 ... ummer.html

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:04 pm

Absolutely stunning!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:02 pm

Paul Ont wrote:Absolutely stunning!

Thanks Paul

marceli · Post by **marceli** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:56 am

I might give it a try, but I need a roof all year long, I guess. Too high percipitation here.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:59 am

Aaron, it must be so satisfying to see those beauties every day.
Truly lovely.

Everything nearby is maturing so nicely too.

Barb

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:32 pm

Nice! They didn't seem to mind all the harsh weather you had last winter.

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:41 am

Impressive! Joshua trees looks very happy in your garden.