Yuccas in snow pics

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:49 pm

Yuccas in snow pics.
http://unkowndestination.blogspot.com/2 ... -snow.html

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:21 pm

Nice snowy photo

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:43 am

Very nice yuccas shots at unknowndestination! It makes me stronger in yucca plants growing at my place.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:45 am

Looks like a nice fluffy light snow-

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:28 pm

Aaron,
how do your rostratas handle snow? Do you protected them. Mines small enough still that it's protected under a plastic storage container. It still looks happy, we'll see how it looks come January.

My claret cup got covered in snow this week because there was space for snow to blow in, but it melted due to having a plastic cover on top of it.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:28 pm

cuja1 wrote:Aaron,
how do your rostratas handle snow? Do you protected them.

Yes, I do when they are younger, well most of them. I have some smaller ones that are uncovered, but they have a tight enough spear that they should make it.
What I have observed, is they do ok if the plant has a nice tight crown spear. If the center of the crown is lose and does not have a good spear then moisture can get in the crown and cause rot.
Also you don't want that snow in the crown all winter, we get lots of wind in the winter/spring that keep the crowns dry, but I also will throw a towel or blanket over the crowns when it is going to snow heavey. (only if I remember too.)

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:32 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Nice snowy photo

Thanks Tim.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:33 pm

igor.glukhovtsev wrote:Very nice yuccas shots at unknowndestination! It makes me stronger in yucca plants growing at my place.

Thanks, I hope they do as well for you as they grow for me.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:34 pm

hardyjim wrote:Looks like a nice fluffy light snow-

It was, just right for yucca snow, but now we are getting some wet snow with it.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:07 pm

Aaron, lovely shot.
So pretty.

The big y.brevi must be stunning with its snowy blanket.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:49 am

lucky1 wrote:Aaron, lovely shot.
So pretty.

The big y.brevi must be stunning with its snowy blanket.

Barb

Thanks.

Lucky for me, not much snow on it's crown.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:30 am

Very little snow compared to the first pic of this post last year

That blue is stunning!
Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:39 pm

Hi Aaron,

I see your temp is dropping tonight......7F. How low are you gonna get?

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:30 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Aaron,

I see your temp is dropping tonight......7F. How low are you gonna get?

The forcast says 5f but we are already 6F, so I would say -5f?

Our high today was 11F

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:52 pm

A high of 11F? Boy............... I'm glad we don't have temps like that.

I'm testing/protecting a Citrumelo this year and I really don't want any super cold. After tonight we will have warmer temps again.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:44 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:A high of 11F? Boy............... I'm glad we don't have temps like that.

I'm testing/protecting a Citrumelo this year and I really don't want any super cold. After tonight we will have warmer temps again.

I would love it if we had our avg temps here, 33 high and 17low. But most of the time we are below in winter.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:34 am

If we could only eliminate the coldest 2 or 3 nights of the winter.........I bet we would be a zone 7a or perhaps even a 7b in the mild winters! That would be so cool. The ocean really buffers our area nicely......I can't complain......a few miles inland and they get 5F to 10F colder at night.

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:38 pm

Great pics, Aaron!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:40 am

Cameron_z6a_N.S. wrote:Great pics, Aaron!

Thanks!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:24 am

Update on blog

http://unkowndestination.blogspot.com/2 ... tside.html

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:31 am

Looks pretty arctic, lol! I think they should be fine...

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:04 am

What's the odds of that 16" O. engelmannii pad surviving your cold? Any shot? I need to send you the Mesa Garden hardy Engelmannii pad......I got it in 2002 and it's never gotten any damage on it yet. It will be a good side to side test.

Has your Y. rostrata seen cold like this? Only time will tell if there is damage.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:31 am

TimMAz6 wrote:What's the odds of that 16" O. engelmannii pad surviving your cold? Any shot? I need to send you the Mesa Garden hardy Engelmannii pad......I got it in 2002 and it's never gotten any damage on it yet. It will be a good side to side test.

Has your Y. rostrata seen cold like this? Only time will tell if there is damage.

Well, I think as it grows new pads next year I will keep one inside for my place in AZ, and what I leave in the ground I will cover as long as I can. It comes from northern part of O. engel. range. So, yesthat would be a great side by side test. And thanks Tim. Would you like a trade with the other big pad Opuntia I have? If it lives?

And yes...I think my rostrata has lived through a winter like this before, could have been coverd though? Almost every winter I have here is the worst I have had, except for last winter, that was a good one.

I do belive the rostrta will see some damage if it makes it.
PS. My rostarta has thinner leaves than most Y. linearifolia's I've seen.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:09 pm

Hi Aaron,

I'm done with cactus.......been giving them away for a few years now. Thanks for the offer though.

Do you think you have a rostrata or linearifolia?........when it blooms we'll know for sure!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:30 pm

TimMAz6 wrote: Do you think you have a rostrata or linearifolia?........when it blooms we'll know for sure!

I don't know? I bought it as rostrata seed. How do you tell the flowers apart? I always thought linearifolia was just a thin leaved rostrata?

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:25 am

Hi Aaron,

it's not just the bloom........it's the seed pods. Most botanists thought Y. linearifolia was a form of Y. rostrata until they saw the seed pods. Y. linearifolia has succulent seed pods like baccata, aloifolia, etc... where rostrata has dry seed pods like filamentosa, glauca, etc... So you'll need it to bloom AND get it to form seed pods!

What's the odds of that happening?

Yucca linearifolia is closer related to baccata than rostrata.......who would of thought.

I'll send you some pollen.....let me know when it blooms............it may be awhile since rostrata is a shy bloomer in northern areas.....thompsoniana blooms much more easily in northern areas.

PS, when I grew Y. linearifolia from seed the first few leaves are wide like baccata seedlings then they narrow up with age. Did your's do that?

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:33 am

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Aaron,

it's not just the bloom........it's the seed pods. Most botanists thought Y. linearifolia was a form of Y. rostrata until they saw the seed pods. Y. linearifolia has succulent seed pods like baccata, aloifolia, etc... where rostrata has dry seed pods like filamentosa, glauca, etc... So you'll need it to bloom AND get it to form seed pods! What's the odds of that happening? Yucca linearifolia is closer related to baccata than rostrata.......who would of thought.

I'll send you some pollen.....let me know when it blooms............it may be awhile since rostrata is a shy bloomer in northern areas.....thompsoniana blooms much more easily in northern areas.

PS, when I grew Y. linearifolia from seed the first few leaves are wide like baccata seedlings then they narrow up with age. Did your's do that?

Thanks Tim for the info!

Rostrata blooms easy here! I see rostarta blooms every summer, must be that we have more sunlight and heat in the summer than the east?

No they were thin like elata.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:05 pm

I'm not sure why rostratas bloom in your area when 'young'. I've talked to people in Texas and was under the impression that Y. rostrata doesn't bloom in Texas until it is 6 feet tall.......do you think the rostratas in Idaho have some thompsoniana genes in them? My rostrata is 7 feet tall and no blooms.

What's the pH of your soil in Idaho? I need to buy a ton of limestone!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:14 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:I'm not sure why rostratas bloom in your area when 'young'. I've talked to people in Texas and was under the impression that Y. rostrata doesn't bloom in Texas until it is 6 feet tall.......do you think the rostratas in Idaho have some thompsoniana genes in them? My rostrata is 7 feet tall and no blooms.

What's the pH of your soil in Idaho? I need to buy a ton of limestone!

I don't know why? I think they are about 4 or bigger, and all the flowers I see are short within the crown, well most of the time.

Our ph is basic, salty or alkaline range in the desert areas. Alkaline soil makes for bushy/compact plants and flowers, or so I read.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:15 pm

Tim, who would have thought that my small elata would have bloomed?

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:24 pm

Hi Aaron,

the short blooms sure correlate to rostrata.....not thompsoniana.

pH....most of the rupicolae family of Yuccas (ie. rostrata) grow in limestone areas.....which have a higher pH. Our soils are typically about 5 (acidic). To keep them happy I should buy a bunch of limestone and place it near the Yuccas.

I'm not sure why your elata bloomed.......pH again? Mine has 3 feet of trunk and has never bloomed.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:14 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Aaron,

the short blooms sure correlate to rostrata.....not thompsoniana.

pH....most of the rupicolae family of Yuccas (ie. rostrata) grow in limestone areas.....which have a higher pH. Our soils are typically about 5 (acidic). To keep them happy I should buy a bunch of limestone and place it near the Yuccas.

I'm not sure why your elata bloomed.......pH again? Mine has 3 feet of trunk and has never bloomed.

Would be worth a try.

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