Is it May?

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:22 am

Just wondering if I, perhaps, missed 2 months in there somewhere... The lowest temp in the forecast is 8c (~46f). This would be normal weather for May around here: http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statis ... 0/caon0696

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weathe ... ef=homemap

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:59 pm

Paul. Me too

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/fourteenday/caon0688

90% of the snow is gone (Was 3 feet in some places), some flowers are comming up, and im expecting crocus in the comming days. Everythings uncovered, and my sweet almond seedling has survived.

Let it stay this way!

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:40 pm

Local TV meterologists here say we are already in May.
This morning, low of 63 F broke the old highest low record (58 F) by 5 F

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:50 pm

I hear y'all. Highs in the 70s and lows in the 50s ...Lovin this weather.!!! We're off to New orleans tomorrow for the five day weekend where temps will be in the low 8's I think I may have totally escaped winter??????

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:59 pm

Have fun, Sid!
We're going to Dallas for the weekend.
BTW my weather sticher is messed up--no way we are getting into the 90s tomorrow.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:51 pm

Dr. Jeff Masters asks instead if it is JUNE on his blog today:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMa ... ticle.html
which also mentions the heavy snows at my parent's Oregon coast house.

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:22 am

That is a lot of record highs! Wow. We've broken only one all-time record high so far (but we've been close each day this week)...

And here I am still waiting for winter...

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:52 am

Winter? Try Spring Break on the Oregon beach. That is what my son and his college buddies are doing this week.
PS morning low of 20 C here in Tulsa....

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:45 am

I just found this table regardin february temps in canada.....

Temperature and Precipitation Tables

Record high mean temperature readings (in °C), ranked by variation from normal:

Location

Mean Temp

Normal

Difference

Previous record

Peterborough

-2.5

-7.7

5.2

-3.0 (1998)

Toronto Pearson

-0.3

-5.4

5.1

-0.3 (1998, tied)

Trenton

-1.5

-6.3

4.8

-1.6 (1954)

Unusual mean temperature readings (in °C), ranked by variation from normal:

Location

Mean Temp

Normal

Difference

Warmest since

Pickle Lake

-10.7

-17.5

6.8

1998

Sault Ste. Marie

-3.5

-9.7

6.2

1998

Thunder Bay

-5.9

-12.0

6.1

1998

http://www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En ... AEC7DDE8F4

Im alost 6C above the average median temp in Feb!

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:23 am

So you're telling me that our top 5 January was followed by a Feb that equaled the alltime? Man, this must have been the all-time mildest winter for Toronto!

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:30 am

Well, Enviro canada is telling you

But that is what it seems, and across the country for the most part (Cept BC and parts of the maritimes IIR). Its also following some of the warmest nov and dec Ive had here. Followed by one of the warmest summers and falls.... well, you get the picture.....

I find a few things odd:

THe previous winters have been similar as this one, but maybe not as extreme. The USDA map has changed, from 30 year averages, on average one zone. Then we get this year, when the winter is extremely mild, longer then I can remember, then get suddenly slammed into spring temps. Im wondering if this is possibly permanent.....

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:53 am

canadianplant wrote: Im wondering if this is possibly permanent.....

I am blown away how fast people forget about the last 3-4 years-winters.

I have thought the same thing though,like maybe that was winters last
fight and now we will see milder winters......but I doubt it.

I have never seen a warm winter,then spring not get cold but this year is strangly different!

Even after we cool from upper 70s and 80s it looks like temps will settle back
to the upper 60s and 70s.....still well above normal just not 30(f)+.

BTW

The banana plants don't know what month it is,so they are just growing.

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:26 am

Jim- Have your winters been bad recently? We've had most (8?) of our top 10 mildest winters of all-time since 1998.

I think it is premature to say that this winter is a new norm. This winter will still be an outlier and I am confident that we will return to our 'normal', but definitely warming, winters by next year!

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:38 am

SAme here paul. spring is on average 2 weeks earlier and fall is on average 2 weeks later then 100 years ago, and most of that occured recently within the last 30 years.

Im not saying THIS winter will be the norm, but Im pretty sure its a sign of things to come. I also cant ignore, that I had a winter and summer (09/10) that was very, very similar to this one. Having 2 winters liek this, so close together is interesting IMO.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:06 am

Yet in BC (or BS as Jesse calls it

), we've hoped that any "benefits" would be warmer winters for us as palm-growers.
This certainly was that kind of winter for folks in the eastern half of North America.

Mostly we've seen hotter summers, which the Okanagan valley doesn't need.

Most noticeable to me over the last 4 or 5 years is that we seem to have 3 SEASONS now.
Spring got dropped.

Barb

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:25 am

Raw temperature anomalies...
check this out, to play, press "faster"
Yeah we are warmer, but many places Like for Barb, and others) it is cooler.

http://policlimate.com/weather/current/ ... a_nam.html

Adam

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:26 am

Sorry, press FWD.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:07 am

lucky1 wrote:Yet in BC (or BS as Jesse calls it ), we've hoped that any "benefits" would be warmer winters for us as palm-growers.
This certainly was that kind of winter for folks in the eastern half of North America.

Mostly we've seen hotter summers, which the Okanagan valley doesn't need.

Most noticeable to me over the last 4 or 5 years is that we seem to have 3 SEASONS now.
Spring got dropped.

Barb

I think last year they said we had the second coldest summer on record, for southern Idaho. Might of been the year before?

And seem like too me we have warmer falls, but colder springs.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:50 am

Yea Paul,the last three winters before this one were pretty brutal.

I have never seen it this warm in March after a mild winter,usually
you get the cold you didn't get in winter March/April or May.

This will be fun to observe and see what happens.............

I am leaning toward a very hot summer right in the middle of the country,
right where the warmth is now,either that or we don't have a summer....

notice normal is not an option

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:33 am

"Normal" is very relative anyways

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