My Trachy

bgodwin1987 · Post by **bgodwin1987** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:41 pm

So I uncovered the Trachy today, this time for good. It is looking pretty nice, has it's leaves still and I think it's really going to take off this year.

damir · Post by **damir** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:43 am

it looks good. try gently to pull the spear. if it stays where it is, it's good then. if it pulls out, that means that it is rotten inside,but still there is a hope. put some fungicide inside with water,in the hole and it will recover. this is the test after every winter you need to make with palms that spend the winter outdoor. often it looks like everything is ok, but inside the palm hearth might show up some fungi and start to rot the palm.

just butia palms could be dead after treating with fungicide that has copper inside. butias cant stand the copper. very important thing to know.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:02 am

looking good Bryce. What's the palm to the left?

bgodwin1987 · Post by **bgodwin1987** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:12 am

I pulled the spear and It's still good, the thing really didn't stop growing I don't think, its got new leaves growing. The plant to the left is Cordyline indivisa and its pretty much defoliated and the center I think is dead, it will probably grow back though and just branch. They are pretty hardy.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:21 am

butias cant stand the copper. very important thing to know.

Thanks damir.
Have never heard that before.

Hope your C. indivisa makes it, Bryce.
They're beauties as they age

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordyline_indivisa

Barb

bgodwin1987 · Post by **bgodwin1987** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:34 am

It my actually be a Cordyline australis not sure bought it for like 1.00 at wal-mart on clearance as a "Spike Plant" so who knows, lol. I hate when they give plants really generic names that could be a couple of different species.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:37 am

Spike Plant

Yeah, generic names like: "tropical foliage"
Duh...as though I thought it was a loaf of bread

Examples of generic (or rather, guessing) names might make a neat and fun topic.

Barb

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:43 pm

Unwrapped my windmill palm on Wednesday. I used heat tape, then burlap, and finally shrink wrap.I am in zone 5a or b. It looks brown in spots and green in others. I looks green on the newer growth at bottom. Wonder if I should spray with fungacide or not. Here is the pictures.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:19 pm

Welcome aboard Palms North, hasty22.

WELL, I'LL BE A FROG'S UNCLE!!!!!

WE LIVE IN THE SAME CITY!!!!!!

I'm next door --> in Coldstream.

As to your palm, I've never seen one wrapped that tightly

The green spear at the bottom, gently pull.
If it's firm, it's probably OK.

Barb

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:22 am

Welcome Hasty22!
Congrats, your palm looks ok. Livistonia chinensis?
Good to know it can make it through.
Adam

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:27 am

Correction: Hasty has a Livistona chinensis, rated zone 8b.?
Adam

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:07 am

I thought I was the only person crazy enough to grow palms and other tropicals in Vernon.
I pulled on the bottom of the plant it seems very solid. What type of plants you got growing. The only two tropicals that I have outside are
the windmill palm and a musa basjoo banana, which I may uncover today and take a peak.
Take care
Keith

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:16 am

Adam is my palm not a windmill palm? you were saying something about Livistona chinensis?
Thanks
Keith

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:22 pm

I think Adam's right, that's not a Trachy.
Does look like a Livistonia (Chinese Fan Palm).

You probably shopped at the same nursery as me, everything's called Tropical foliage

Barb

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:27 pm

Hi Barb. I was looking at photos of Livistona chinensis and they are saying the leaves curl at the end. this one is normally all straight, just right now a few are drooping from overwintering. Yes and I bought it at home depot, was looking to see if tag was still there.
Keith

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:03 pm

A L.chinensis. Is this what you mean by leaves curling at the end?

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx ... ra_id=1001

Barb

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:32 am

Yes

Keith

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:51 am

Keith,
Here's my L. chinensis, coming back from the dead after getting too little water the last two years (it was ignored a lot).

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/southslope/6903760997/" title="001 by edible_plum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7058/6903 ... 9570_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="001"></a>

But mine's in a cold building, still quite a bit warmer than what yours was exposed to.

Once our weather warms up, looks like yours could do with a lot of water.

Barb

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:05 pm

Keith,
Yeah we shipped those "Chinese Fan Palms" by the thousands to Home Depots all along the East coast the five years I worked there.
Thats a Chinese Fan Palm, Livistona chinensis... maybe 25 to 35 dollars retail for a 10" pot.. typically an indoor plant.

Trachycarpus fortunei, a "Chinese windmill palm" or "Chusan Palm" are much cold hardier... regarded as outdoor palms, are less widely available, and more expensive. Mine were 10" pots at maybe $65 a plant same size.

So it is really cool you overwintered a L. chinensis nonetheless.

Adam

hasty22 · Post by **hasty22** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:44 pm

Hey Adam and Barb I found a picture of my palm from last summer. Check it out and let me know what you think. I did not notice droppy leaves. It is a better picture than the one from this spring.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:48 pm

I'm dumbfounded that even that better pic doesn't resemble a Chinese Fan.
Too skinny with thin petioles.

Was it a lot thicker, denser than that when you bought it?

Barb

ROBRETI · Post by **ROBRETI** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:49 am

Hi all,

Sorry to jump in uninvited

Could it be that this is a Trachy that was grown under low light conditions and therefore grew longer than ususal petioles?

Rob (who killed his Trachy in Oakville, ON)

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:11 am

No invite EVER needed

Even young Trachies have a trunk.
Keith's isn't a Trachy.

killed his Trachy in Oakville, ON

how? insufficient winter protection?

Sorry, Bryce

for completely derailing your thread

Barb

bgodwin1987 · Post by **bgodwin1987** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:39 pm

I have seen petioles like that on the Chinese Fan palms sold at walmart for $9.95 I bought one like that one time and after all those leaves on the long petioles died the new leaves were shorter. It looks live a Chinese fan palm to me, they are pretty hardy, not as hardy as Chinese windmill palm but hardier than most of the other palms sold by the big box stores.

bgodwin1987 · Post by **bgodwin1987** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:40 pm

It's cool Barb

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