Ice Cores = Climate Change History
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Ice Cores = Climate Change History
http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?o ... view=false
And how people will function at higher temps:
http://www.earthmagazine.org/earth/article/402-7db-1-1f
And how people will function at higher temps:
http://www.earthmagazine.org/earth/article/402-7db-1-1f
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Barb,
thanks for the interesting links.
I liked the NSF research summary. That is a huge project but one I think is worth my tax dollars. I'm looking forward to the results.
The economics one, well, I am not an economist. My naive assumption is, well, "people just get used to it" but I really don't know. Last August, when it was so hot here, I just got up at 5 am every day and did everything outdoors by 9 am. I was pretty much useless each afternoon--we can't afford to use enough AC to get the house down to the temp. range that article called ideal. I went back outside as the sun went down.
Anyway, thanks for the chance to think about being too hot again!
--Erik
thanks for the interesting links.
I liked the NSF research summary. That is a huge project but one I think is worth my tax dollars. I'm looking forward to the results.
The economics one, well, I am not an economist. My naive assumption is, well, "people just get used to it" but I really don't know. Last August, when it was so hot here, I just got up at 5 am every day and did everything outdoors by 9 am. I was pretty much useless each afternoon--we can't afford to use enough AC to get the house down to the temp. range that article called ideal. I went back outside as the sun went down.
Anyway, thanks for the chance to think about being too hot again!
--Erik
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Another installment in the on-going saga of CC..."Earth may someday return to a hotter climate when the Antarctic ice sheet didn't exist."
Kinda tough to get ice cores from that era
I apologize in advance for sounding so flippant, but we could definitely have grown our palms outdoors 30 MYA to 100 MYA...
http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?o ... view=false
I'm getting so tired of these "perspectives"...while I'm freezing my arse off in the computer room.
Barb
Kinda tough to get ice cores from that era

I apologize in advance for sounding so flippant, but we could definitely have grown our palms outdoors 30 MYA to 100 MYA...
http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?o ... view=false
I'm getting so tired of these "perspectives"...while I'm freezing my arse off in the computer room.
Barb
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Barb, why don't you want to switch your heater on?lucky1 wrote:...while I'm freezing my arse off in the computer room. Barb

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It's on! But this room is the coldest room in the house, farthest from the basement woodstove.
Took me years to figure out why it's so freaking cold in here.
Finally decided that the contractor installed the brick on the exterior (below computer room window) WITHOUT insulating around the window/brick trim.
A candle flame actually flickers near the window!
I suppose the idiot didn't have a tube of caulking in his pocket.
I've caulked the inside window myself (self-pat pat)

May still do that one winter day...

The contractor's dead, so I don't have his phone number

Barb
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Oh yeah, I know! My house was built as a summer cottage 23 years ago. Since we have sold our huge apartment in order to paying a settlement fund when my sister's family and me had been immigrating to Canada, my parents were moving to this cottage. When I came back to Kazakhstan 6 years ago I were starting renovating the house. And insulation was the first project I started implementing. It is still working. But now I can easily switching off my five radiators on the second floor for a time I'm out for the office.
So proud of myself!!! Now it's time for thinking how to insulate my palms to be planted outside soon!

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Good for you, Igor, it certainly is well worth the effort.
And you do it only once because it was done right.
I hope my dead contractor hears that
You'll be able to plant palms out soon...then next September think about how to insulate them.
Enjoy it all summer first
Barb
And you do it only once because it was done right.
I hope my dead contractor hears that

You'll be able to plant palms out soon...then next September think about how to insulate them.
Enjoy it all summer first


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interesting articles......that's where my money went! LOL
I'd rather have a 1C increase vs a 1C decrease.............I can't see any benefit with lower temperatures........another ice age won't work out too well.
I'd rather have a 1C increase vs a 1C decrease.............I can't see any benefit with lower temperatures........another ice age won't work out too well.
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Exactly, Tim.
Half of North America believes they've entered a Snow Age.
Half of North America believes they've entered a Snow Age.

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I agree Barb, Maybe it just feels hotter in the summer, 'cause of the colder snowy winters
Last Year in February
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2010/Febr ... cts-South/
This February
http://www.dailybreeze.com/latestnews/ci_14392601
Paul
Last Year in February
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2010/Febr ... cts-South/
This February
http://www.dailybreeze.com/latestnews/ci_14392601
Paul
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Good links, Paul.
Yup, the same Palms North guys complained this year as last winter.

Yup, the same Palms North guys complained this year as last winter.


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