Has anyone tried araucaria angustifolia outdoor?

serj · Post by **serj** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:34 am

What is the growing speed for araucana?

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:50 am

It depends... I've seen a huge tree (about 10 meters height) in Montreux, Switzerland. Zone 8b for sure. Generally the conifers start growing fast at the age of 7-10 years old. You must have a lot of patience!

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:15 am

Hi Igor,

those protection methods should work, thanks.

Serj,

the monkey puzzle tree in my garden was seed germinated by in 2000. It's 10-years old now.......very slow growers.

JackLord · Post by **JackLord** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:40 am

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Jack,

thanks for the input with mulching the monkey puzzles. I have another monkey puzzle I grew from seed but it's in a container. I'll plant it out next season.....this container grown one appears more 'healthy' than the one outside. Perhaps these trees will get hardier with size/age??

I would think so. I saw several large ones growing in the Italian Alps which sees plenty of snow.

About a month ago, I saw two 5 foot specimens at a local nursery and they had a few brown patches like yours, so perhaps its not so uncommon. There is also a 20 footer growing in Georgetown near here. I will have to check it out in the dead of winter.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:45 am

Hi Jack,

that 20 foot'er in Georgetown must be a great sight. It would be nice to know if that 20' specimen has any brown branches since once it's brown, the areas will never turn green again..........one can tell if there has been a historic freeze in the area!

JackLord · Post by **JackLord** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:57 am

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Jack,

that 20 foot'er in Georgetown must be a great sight. It would be nice to know if that 20' specimen has any brown branches since once it's brown, the areas will never turn green again..........one can tell if there has been a historic freeze in the area!

You can see it on Google/Maps:

I will PM you the directions.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:41 pm

Thanks Jack,

for the others.......here's the google maps image.....gotta love street view in google maps!

Great specimen!! Georgetown, Washington, DC

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:21 pm

Thanks for posting that streetview.
Beautiful specimen, spectacular location to plant a "special tree".
Obviously a great spot for it, with nearby brick building and adjacent tree canopies.

gotta love street view in google maps

I think it's fabulous.
Especially for us at PN...the ability to see specimens all over North America is really a wonderful feature.
Don't know if I'd feel the same if it were my house in that picture.

Thanks again.
Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:02 pm

Hi Barb,

I hear you with google street maps......good thing all streets are not on there site, only the most traveled ones. My street is not on yet.......but I think it may be on bing.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:37 pm

Google seems to have turned street view of for my place.
The photo that used to be up captured a vignette here on the farm. I was unloading round bales of hay in the front yard. I saw the Google truck go by. But, I am not in the photo. They must have edited me out.

JackLord · Post by **JackLord** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:35 am

lucky1 wrote:Thanks for posting that streetview.
Beautiful specimen, spectacular location to plant a "special tree".
Obviously a great spot for it, with nearby brick building and adjacent tree canopies.

gotta love street view in google maps
I think it's fabulous.
Especially for us at PN...the ability to see specimens all over North America is really a wonderful feature.
Don't know if I'd feel the same if it were my house in that picture.

Thanks again.
Barb

Furthermore and to bore everyone a bit, it is worth noting that the house with the MP tree is across the street from the Dumbarton Oaks estate. Its one of those classic gilded age places of granduer. And in 1944, the Allies held a conference there to prepare the blueprint for what would become the United Nations.

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:52 pm

Here are around 250 seeds in for a 24 hour soak before planting:

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TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:11 pm

Hi Cameron,

that's a bunch of seed! Good luck with them!

anttisepp · Post by **anttisepp** » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:57 am

Serj, I've read at GardenWeb forum that A. araucana is much more hardier in comparison to A. angustifolia. The first one grows in Scotland, Southern Norway and Sweden without damages. The second one...?
I planted one of my small A.a. in the garden this summer (near Aucuba), it becames more happy, it seems to me that A. feels outdoors better than in a pot. I'll protect my one with styrofoam shield.

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:31 pm

Here's an update on the A. araucana

:

There are around twice as many seedlings than you can see here, they're just too small

A little closer up

You can see some of the tiny seedlings near the middle of this pic

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:13 am

Wow, Cameron, that's a lot of seedlings.
Looks like they're all popping, great germination rate.

How long can they stay in community pots before potting up?

Barb

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:22 am

From what I've read, it seems as if they grow fairly quickly within the first few months to about 15 cm. After that they grow in slow-motion, so that's when I'll divide them

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:28 am

If you lived nearby, I'd offer to help pot them up.
Love doing that!

Do they go into liners or straight into one gallon pots?

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:57 pm

I think I'll put them in pots somewhere between the two. I'll have to divide them up in the spring and keep them outside, because there won't be enough room for all of them inside!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:30 pm

I always like to test with one...you could gently "prick out" one near the edge and plant in a pot to see how it does.
Transplant shock occurs at every stage, and minimizing that is the trick.

Did that with one of my Foxtail seedlings just to see how it would do.
Obviously did it a little too early as that one seedling remains my slowest grower even today.

Can't wait to see where you'll keep them all

Barb

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:42 pm

Yeah, I've read that MP seedlings are especially sensitive to root disturbance/transplant shock, so I'll need to be very careful when seperating all of them!

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:14 pm

some minor burn after a cold spell. Coldest day was High 13F Low -0.9F. I hope it doesn't brown out on me again.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:21 pm

That's pretty good, Tim, if that's the worst of it.

Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:36 am

This monkey puzzle always browns out much later.....like March/April for some reason.............there is a delay in the browning.