End of fall pics of my palms

[ttls1]

Here are some pics of my palms here in northern utah as fall comes to a close the trachy's really grew this summer probably put on 8" of trunk. Canary not so much but thats to be expected i guess.
Canary

Trachy #1

Trachy #2

Med i picked up and will plant next spring

Yard

[TimMAz6]

great palms.....love that CIDP!

[lucky1]

hey ttls1 ( ) welcome to Palms North.
Glad to have you join us.
Looking forward to hearing about northern Utah.

I have to admit...starting your pics with a CIDP--and a gorgeous big one at that--got my attention lickety split.

I've got a zillion questions but will start with the most obvious:
* how long have CIDP and T1 and T2 been in the ground?
* T1 and T2 have C9 lights for winter protection? is that all?
* CIDP isn't half as cold hardy as Trachies...what protection does it get? a cover? heater? (presuming you're in Zone5b or 6? depending on elevation).

End of Q for now...

Great to see the superb CIDP got THE prime location on your property.
Barb

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[ttls1]

According to usda we are 6b but in reality we havent hit temps that cold where i live in 10 years we are generally 7a/7b borderline arbor day map shows us as a zone 7. Canary gets boxed up i use 2" foam insulation with a flourecent light inside. Eventually it will probably get to big but ill enjoy it for a couple more years i suppose. Trachys get lights around the trunk and if it is extremely cold or going to be snowy i tie up the fronds and put a heavy mil bag over them temporarily. The trachys also get plastic under the bark out a couple feet to keep the ground drier around them. They have all been in the ground a little over a year they were all pretty decent sized when i got them. I am only 4 hours from st george utah where palms are common and nursery's carry them.

[lucky1]

where palms are common and nursery's carry them

That is exciting!

Your climate data compares to Vancouver,B.C. on the Coast (whose weather most "interior plateau" people like me envy).
That zone is a breeze for Trachies.

Looking forward to more pictures...any indoor palms? cycads?

At the risk of burning you out on Day 1 of your membership here , another Q:

Are there palms/yuccas/cycads at your Town's hall or square?

Would love to see pics of your boxing up the CIDP before frost threatens.

Noticed on Wikipedia that there are lots of dry areas in your State where some fav plants grow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mojave2.jpg

Again, welcome!
Barb

[TerdalFarm]

Yes, welcome!
Northern Utah gets some extreme weather--cold, hot, wind. I'm envious of the palms you can grow there. That takes real skill.
The Phoenix blows me away. Fantastic!
The med. fan palm should be much easier. I find mine to be about my lowest maintenance palm (but it does get protection).
--Erik

[ttls1]

No there is not really many desert plants around here, there are some at peoples homes and slc has a very big joshua tree. They are usually in specific planters with pretty much gravel as soil they survive the cold here but must have excellent drainage to do so. In st george joshua trees are everywhere. I have a couple of pygmy date palms in large planters i built they stay in the garage over winter. Ill post up pics when i cover the canary its been beautiful weather here lately so i hope its a couple more weeks. Its not to extreme here but it can change very fast we rarely get over 100 degrees, or below 5 but it can change 30 degrees in a day thats for sure.

[Paul Ont]

Are you in SLC? If I recall correctly from other posters in that area it is generally 6b or 7a depending on elevation and proximity to the lake.

I've not seen a CIDP from that area before, that's impressive. Do you happen to know if that really old, really rough looking T. fortunei in SLC is still kicking around? I recall someone posting pics of the thing. Apparently it would nearly defoliate each winter only to come back each summer. It was one of the most resilient palms I've ever heard of!

Thanks for sharing!

[JackLord]

Nice! Just when I think I have hit critical mass with palms, I see that you have a date palm and now I start thinking about the feasibility. They are my favorites.

[ttls1]

Are you in SLC? If I recall correctly from other posters in that area it is generally 6b or 7a depending on elevation and proximity to the lake.

I've not seen a CIDP from that area before, that's impressive. Do you happen to know if that really old, really rough looking T. fortunei in SLC is still kicking around? I recall someone posting pics of the thing. Apparently it would nearly defoliate each winter only to come back each summer. It was one of the most resilient palms I've ever heard of!

Thanks for sharing!

I am about 20 min from slc i would say 7a is appropriate although it doesnt always get that cold. I dont know if it is alive although there is a guy in bountiful bench which is colder and higher than me with quite a few palms he has had at least 3 or 4 years.

Here are some pics
http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/9767 ... hJ?start=0

[lucky1]

Hi ttls1, thanks for posting the link to your album.
That's it!!!!! I'm moving to Northern UTAH.
Might be easier to clad my entire house in brick to give off warmth.

I had no idea that palms would grow at your elevation(s) ... having enough trouble with mine at 1200 feet.

F A B U L O U S ! And some of those Trachies are of good age!

Very clever design of your PVC coldframe.
First Pawlonia tree I've seen outside of a picture on a seed package. Nicely done.
Some photos are from 2007 so palms have obviously been in the ground for a number of years.

Love the palm in snow pic with lights shining from below
Nice yuccas, good to hear there are Joshua trees growing.
Would love to see a pic of that old one growing in town when you're next driving past it.

You'll have to wear a hard hat to walk past that Butia capitata in a few years.
Your fav Trachy is a real beauty.
And that "palm yard" wow! hope they recovered after that frond damage.

The large just-planted Robusta...what a beautiful addition to the landscape.

Thanks for posting the pics!
Barb

[ttls1]

[quote="lucky1"]Hi ttls1, thanks for posting the link to your album.
That's it!!!!! I'm moving to Northern UTAH.
Might be easier to clad my entire house in brick to give off warmth.

I had no idea that palms would grow at your elevation(s) ... having enough trouble with mine at 1200 feet.

F A B U L O U S ! And some of those Trachies are of good age!

Very clever design of your PVC coldframe.
First Pawlonia tree I've seen outside of a picture on a seed package. Nicely done.
Some photos are from 2007 so palms have obviously been in the ground for a number of years.

Love the palm in snow pic with lights shining from below
Nice yuccas, good to hear there are Joshua trees growing.
Would love to see a pic of that old one growing in town when you're next driving past it.

You'll have to wear a hard hat to walk past that Butia capitata in a few years.
Your fav Trachy is a real beauty.
And that "palm yard" wow! hope they recovered after that frond damage.

The large just-planted Robusta...what a beautiful addition to the landscape.

Thanks for posting the pics!


These are not my palms they are various other peoples from northern utah.

[lucky1]

oops...

Nice to see what other folks in your area are doing with palms and desert plants!

Thanks again.
Barb

[Paul Ont]

Thanks for all the pics! The climate there is so different from mine, I find it interesting that the climate zones aren't too different, but my average temps are so much lower!

[hardyjim]

Looking good!

Seems like you have great climate to play with protection and maybe don't have
to leave it on to long,that would be fun.
I wish it was that way here,I would love to be able to leave my Trachys,etc out
for most of the winter,only covering when needed


Have a somewhat dry climate helps

[BILL MA]

Great Photos!!! That canary is great, along with those trachys. Very impressive, I'm looking forward to seeing your pictures of protection on that bad boy.

Welcome to the board.

Bill

[lucky1]

Having a somewhat dry climate helps

I thought so too, Jim, but ultimately it comes down to what the minimum is (and for how long it's cold).
We're drier than a popcorn burp, but -23C for up to a week with howling NW winds (usually mid-Dec) is no fun for plants.

H and I were just talking about the same thing you posted ..."maybe don't have to leave protection on too long", if at all.
Just think how easy it would be to grow the plants we love if it rarely got below freezing, and then only a bit.

How fortunate those zones are!
Barb