Some more pics and Bananas!

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:31 am

Yucca Gloriosa flowered and now the crown is finished but.........

it does have at least 6 pups coming up and they have a massive root system to feed them!

I cut the lower leaves to give the new guys plenty of warm sun

Love the Princeps!

Here's a picture of what my Trunk cut Trachy looked like last year(Sept),in April and this year-Oct 8th

and this year

The other T-cut Fortunei

The FortxWag that was trunk cut

A Waggie

Takagii

Some Canna flowers

Flower of Thai giant

Giant reed grass flowering

Shade grown Basjoo(8') and fern bed

C.cerifera

One of my Tree ferns(Cyathea dealbata,very rare in the states!) I sprouted from spores-sown last November.

Abyssinian-over 12'

Encephalartos Princeps

Some of the Cactus

A.parryi(blue form)

Y.Aloifolia

Bananas!

Thanks for looking

coltrane · Post by **coltrane** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:59 am

Jim, youve got to have the nicest yard in Iowa. Your efforts pay off nicely.

ScottyON · Post by **ScottyON** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:01 am

Really, Really nice Jim!! I second that comment!! Any frost in your future?? We have a frost warning here for night

I think I'll probably miss it at my place since I am so close to Lake Ontario..

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:33 am

the nicest yard in Iowa

Ditto that.

Thanks for the pics.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:17 pm

DUDE!!! that flower is huge now.... and the nanners :shock Everything looks right good

Out of the palms you have, what would you say survived the winter best and recovered the fastest?

How did you germinate those spores??

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:54 pm

Thanks guys/gals!

Jesse-I think you can't count the trunk cut Trachys out of that debate-is there one?

No frost-check out the 10 day forecast!

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/52556

To me besides the above mentioned this palm(which may just be Takil-to early to tell but different for sure)
has been amazing-here's a pic after winter and recently-

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:41 pm

great plants Jim!!!!!!! I like to see your Trachy's regrow so nicely.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:42 pm

Thanks JIm...... keeep up the good work

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:42 am

Excellent pics. Thanks for the idea of cutting the bottom leaves off of my Yuccas: I'm trying it.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:47 am

cutting the bottom leaves off of my Yuccas:

Maybe they'll trunk sooner.
Would be a great trick.

Barb

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:55 am

lucky1 wrote:
cutting the bottom leaves off of my Yuccas:
Maybe they'll trunk sooner.
Would be a great trick.

Barb

Thanks you guys.

Barb I think this Yucca is done,I just cut the leaves to give the little guys some light!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:22 pm

Sure, it's done growing for this year, but maybe they will trunk sooner if they get light at the center.
We can hope.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:26 am

lucky1 wrote:Sure, it's done growing for this year,

No,I mean the center appears dead now since it flowered.

Someone on another forum said theirs grew branches out from
right under where it flowered-it would definitely be awesome if it kept going!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:36 am

branches out from right under where it flowered-it would definitely be awesome if it kept going

Maybe branches form the year after flowering?

I've seen tall specimens that branched, with no branches lower down.
Could be because in habitat, animals (?) no longer rub against/chew tall branches as the main stem continues to grow.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:40 am

Yucca gloriosa grows reminicant of Yucca guatamalensis (sp) ( spinless yucca thats grown as a house plant). Not nearly as tall, but looks like a miniature version of it. Wish it was hardy here... How long has it been planted??

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:04 pm

Here's a picture of it from April/2008-it is the one on the right,
the one on the left(sold as gloriosa)turned out to be var Aloifolia
and was moved farther away.

........and another from this year...3 summers

Not bad for 3 years!

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:19 am

Ya jim... hopefully you can get that to trunk a bit next year. Im assuming you protect it?

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:49 am

Hey Jim,
Looks like I'm a little late to the rodeo on this one

Everything looks fantastic! I really like the picture of your large trachy growing out of the old trunk, that's pretty cool.

I can't wait to see some pictures of those new takils

Bill

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:59 am

canadianplant wrote:Ya jim... hopefully you can get that to trunk a bit next year. Im assuming you protect it?

I protect everything!

I think you have some palm pics coming up to Bill!

garryendson · Post by **garryendson** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:05 am

Hi Jim,
That is a lot of work you gotta put on.Your beautiful palm paradise is worth that hard work.
I noticed that you are growing the red banana which is quite attractive, what is the variety ? Is is every green and cold hardy?

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:28 am

The one in the last sequence of pics is an Abyssinian.

I also have Rowe red and Siam ruby that are reddish in color.

Basjoos(for sure),Yunnanensis,Black Thai may also be hardy with enough mulch.

Rajapuri and Lasiocarpa may also be hardy(if mulched),I will be digging these 2 up for storage
in the hopes of getting blooms next year.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:08 am

I got a musella too. The only sprout, out of 20 seeds ( 10 velutina, and 10 musella). Im pretty sure its musella, due to the leaf shape ( longer, and not as wide as the other bananas ive seen). Its only had 5 leaves so far.

From my research on it, ive found a few cases of it surviving zone 5 heavily multched. Im gonna plant it in the spring, and dig it up when it dies back and treat it liek a canna lily.

Too bad its so hard to find any musa ( besides basjoo) up here, other then starting from seed....

When do you start geting everything ready or the winter down there ??

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:53 am

Canadian- I've got a bunch of small Y. gloriosa planted from seed (sown 2008). Hoping to select for hardy forms (if any survive). Of these there are maybe 15 that came through last winter (remember it was VERY mild last winter), hoping to reduce that down to 1 or 2 this year. Interestingly I have only ~3 Yucca recurvfolia remaining from a similar sized experiment with that sp. In the past I've had gloriosa 'variegata' survive one winter (top-killed) unprotected. It died completely the following winter. I still have 1 'larger' Yucca recurvfolia which top killed the first year (2008/09) but was largely undamaged last year (2009/10). Long story short, if you want to grow them be prepared to protect if temps drop below 0 to -5f (~-18 to -20C). I do wonder if someone was able to get one established in zone 5, how much additional cold it could take? Oh, and the seeds were form Tennessee grown plants, which, according to some anecdotal evidence, are able to handle a little more cold.

Jim- Thanks for the pics! Very inspiring!

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:32 am

Thanks paul. The furthest north ive heard of these growing is novascotia. But ive been told that the plant has been misidentified. I got a feeling these last few worm winters are becomming the norm. Plant can be a good indication of that i guess. I know a few elderly people that said theyd never think of there being azalea and rhodies here, but there are ( due to half selective breeding/ breeding technques ( in this case cold hardiness) and changing climate here in canada).

Who knows what well be growing in 10 years

PS... Jim, i bet my alocasia odora will out grow your thai giant next year LOL

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:51 pm

Canadian- I can vouch for only Yucca glauca and Yucca filamentosa in Nova Scotia. I have no doubt that Y. recurvfolia and gloriosa would survive in the zone 7 areas in the Southwest of the province, they can get away with some incredible plants there!

I also think that both Spp. are being grown in Niagara, but I've only seen Y. recurvfolia there.

To get back to Jim- What's the lowest temperature that your gloriosa saw in the past 3 winters?

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:49 pm

Single digits Paul 0-9F

It depends on the plant Jesse.....

Obviously the Bananas/Thai giant,etc are the most tender.

Of the stuff staying out in the ground,the C.cooperi is probably the most tender,then some of the other T.ferns
and then the Washys.

The Cactus usually get a rain cover starting Oct 1 but since it hasn't rained in 3 weeks-no need.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:28 pm

Jim,
Yeah, wow!

I keep designing my succulent bed but haven't put anything in the ground yet but Heserpaloe so no help there.

I have grown Musella. I had two for a few years; only one came through this past winter. Still no blooms. I'm frustrated with them. Canna (any variety) are much better.

I want in to the "Thai Giant" competition for 2011. I have a spot in mind.

--Erik

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:31 am

TerdalFarm wrote:Jim,
Y
I want in to the "Thai Giant" competition for 2011. I have a spot in mind.
--Erik

Should be fun!

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:12 pm

Don't worry Erik your in!

Like I said before I'll be sending the control plants all at once for the competition in early April. I'll start a post at the end of winter, I'll find a way to get them to Canada one way or another if anyone is interested. All I ask for is a few bucks for shipping.

Bill