My new palms garden

henry5 zone5 · Post by **henry5 zone5** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:11 am

look my butia capitata -trachycarpus F. and my rhapidophillum H.

Henry

henry5 zone5 · Post by **henry5 zone5** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:13 am

henry5 zone5 wrote:look my butia capitata -trachycarpus F. and my rhapidophillum H.

Henry

henry5 zone5 · Post by **henry5 zone5** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:15 am

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:38 am

Pretty Solid for zone 4 Henry! I think there's a guy in zone 4 Utah who is also growing Butia... Does anyone have a link for that?

Cheers,
Paul
Zone 4/5 Kingston, ON.

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:24 am

Henry,
looks super! Have you done all that this year?
--Erik

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:37 pm

Wow Henry you have been busy! Looks awesome! That rock outline really makes things jump out at you, love the vertical ones. What a great idea!

Bill

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:39 pm

By the way can you add some more organic matter to your soil it doesn't look rich enough

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:54 pm

Paul Ont wrote:Pretty Solid for zone 4 Henry! I think there's a guy in zone 4 Utah who is also growing Butia... Does anyone have a link for that?

Cheers,
Paul
Zone 4/5 Kingston, ON.

That was Paul's way of telling you, he thinks you live in zone 4

You have a real talent for design,looks great!

Link to Arctictropicals pics-

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load ... 98206.html

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:51 am

Jim- I was trying to be subtle... There is relatively little 'true' USDA zone 5 in Quebec... Only the downtown Montreal heat island is 5a (barely), long-term. There is, however, quite a bit of solid zone 4 along the river in the Montreal area. When you get down toward Brockville ON you get back on the USDA zone 5 border!

But, to get back to what matters, the palms look great, and take a hard look at what Arctictropicals does, but, keep in mind, that he is quite a bit south of us, and the cold is less long lived and his daytime highs are much warmer in winter!

ScottyON · Post by **ScottyON** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:48 pm

Looks awesome!! Let me guess, did you visit Mike?? Is this the first year your palms will be in the ground???

ScottyON · Post by **ScottyON** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:02 pm

I dunno but this is where I get my info..
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/garden ... _gardening

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:52 am

Scotty, that's Canadian zone, not based on the same criteria as the USDA zones (and the cause of much confusion)... Here's what it says about Sydenham, which is right on the border of zone 4b and 5a long term: http://www.theweathernetwork.com/garden ... _gardening . The Canadian zone is generally, (in the east) one full zone colder than the USDA zone. A few exceptions are found in nova Scotia, where places like Yarmouth (USDA zone 7a) http://www.theweathernetwork.com/garden ... _gardening . This has to do with the multifactorial nature of the Canadian map.

Ain't no way Sydenham is a 5b, the only long term USDA 5b stations in the area are Amherst Island (barely) and Point Petre (Barely). Ok, enough of my negtive attitude... I'll save the zone realism for the noobs.

henry5 zone5 · Post by **henry5 zone5** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:40 am

Thanks for all your replies and comments but i have just a wish , to be able to keep each one alive

Thanks again

Henry

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:54 am

Henry- In terms of protection Scotty on this board overwintered non-hardy palms in zone 5 Kingston, ON. He'd be the one to talk to about heating and protection!

henry5 zone5 · Post by **henry5 zone5** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:35 am

Paul Ont wrote:Henry- In terms of protection Scotty on this board overwintered non-hardy palms in zone 5 Kingston, ON. He'd be the one to talk to about heating and protection!

Paul a BIG BIG MERCI for your help

Henry

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:29 am

I think people get way to involved in the zone thing(not saying you guys

)just in general.

I mean- I say I live in zone 5b- some winters are zone 6a,that does not cover
having 70 days of sub-32f highs some years.

Some like to say they live in a micro-climate and there lows are similar to zone 7a or
whatever but imagine how mild it is in zone 7a when the lows and highs are taken into account-

Those people say their micro-climates are zone 8a or 8b, like Washington D.C for example.

What really matters is what CAN grow there,D.C. is about the Northern limit near the east coast of
where Trachys,Needles and Sabals can grow unprotected,like Henry said,just keep them alive.

I create about a dry zone 7 equivalent for my palms and they 'just' do make it

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:54 am

Henry,
You got tons of time to get your protection down. You definitely have a lot of minds to pick on here about palm huts too.

Zones are nothing more then a guideline, they give you a general idea of what to expect on a average winter. Zone 4-7 as long as you know how to properly protect for your area your golden! Obviously the warmer the better in winter, but we got what we got so if it's to cold for anyone move south

I would love to live in a coastal SC zone 8, but I'm here so I do what I have to do to grow plants that would live down there:D

Bill

henry5 zone5 · Post by **henry5 zone5** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:16 am

Thank Bill Ma , it`s pretty clear in my head i'm OK with my location , i would love to living some where warmer too but it's

impossible at the moment.

The most important right now for me it`s to be able to get my BB alive , i wish with your help!

thank's again everyone

Henry

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:28 pm

This Fall will see one more person building a hut.
Good!

Sure a nice color on that Butia!
And the size of the Trachy...wow.

It must have been a labour of love building that bed.
Great specimens.

Barb

henry5 zone5 · Post by **henry5 zone5** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:24 am

ScottyON wrote:Looks awesome!! Let me guess, did you visit Mike?? Is this the first year your palms will be in the ground???

Hello Scotty , yes i did and i think u did it too ?

About my palms it absolutely the first time for each one in the ground , U have 2 on 2 BRAVO!

Have u some suggestion to me?

THANK

Henry

henry5 zone5 · Post by **henry5 zone5** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:37 am

lucky1 wrote:This Fall will see one more person building a hut.
Good!

Sure a nice color on that Butia!
And the size of the Trachy...wow.

It must have been a labour of love building that bed.
Great specimens.

Barb

Barb , thank for your incitement and your gentile words , for this fall i just hope to be able to protect each one

correctly .

Barb

Henry

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