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ScottyON
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Trip to Coles

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Took a drive down to Niagara Falls yesterday to Coles Florist to see Tony. Got some new plants to share!

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15 Gal Trachy!
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Buford Holly..
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Edith Bogue
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DD Blanchard
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BLE's putting out new leaf..
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Thanks for looking!!

Scott


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Looks good Scotty O



Good luck with everything! :D
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Thanks Jim!!!
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Post by ROBRETI »

Nice pics, Scotty! Also, you'll have quite a jungle, I love the Trachy and the Magnolias. Good that you went to Cole's.
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Looks great!
I want to give a "shout out" to burford holly. Mine looked great in even the worst of the winter. --Erik
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Erik

Oops,I thought you wrote,shoot out.
I was going to PM Barrie and make up,so he would maybe join forces with me,
never know about you wild west people :shock:



Scotty
Is that A.desmentiana in your first picture?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Paul Ont »

I'd also like to give a 'shout out' to Burford holly... Mine was completely fried this spring despite a frost cloth wrap, mulch, and a very mild winter (-22C)... Hope Scotty's does better! It may come back still, but it's not very nice to look at right now.

I can answer the Agave question too. I think that the pup that I gave him. It's Agave americana 'variegata' (or similar), a nice looking plant just not as vigourous as the plain form!

Seriously though, Scotty is really pushing things with these plants, and, from what we've seen, he has a good grasp on what is necessary to bring them through a zone 5 winter (even though we had a zone 6a winter...)!
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Looking really good Scott.
Nothing a little wilt pruf can't handle for the winter on those mags :wink: My Blanchard is already starting to come back good after it's first winter beating.
I suspect it will be 100% after rooting in good this summer. Mine is completely exposed with zero protection from pretty much all sides though. The lil gems look great, go figure there supposed to be the weak ones. I bet those hollies will do fine too with some spray and maybe a frost cloth wrap for you. Two out of my three look not bad at all for there first year with no mulch or any protection in a cold spot in my yard exposed to north winds all winter. The one that looks crappy I planted to high, you can actually see the roots above the soil level about 1 inch oopps. It still has 65% of its leaves though.

That trachy is going to go mad this year too. Now that I look closely that one is a fair amount bigger then my first one that I planted going on it's forth summer. It's now 8 feet to the top of the new fronds, can't imagine the end of the year. So just think after 5 summers you'll be able to see it from your deck!

Nice job man!
I'll hook you up with a rostrata too if you want one when your down here this summer.

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Burford holly

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Sorry about the holly. My little one was a champ. No lost foliage, and has put on new leaves.
Euonymous looked frazzled but quickly put on new leaves.
Photinia, Nandina and Abelia took a beating. Those are supposed to be bullet-proof down here, but weren't. :(
Scotty takes his BLEs seriously and am sure his will keep looking great.
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I'm sure Scott's will make it just fine. Mine aren't nearly as bad as it sounds and are growing leaves back too.

How do you fell about those abelia's Erik other then the minor damage this year? Are the flowers and foliage nice?

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My one Abelia is dead. It kept leaves well into the winter so I thought it would make it.
The chickens nibbled the leaves as they were about the only green stuff they could find.
I mulched it with loose hay. Then the W stepped on it. I assumed it would bounce back anyways, but no signs of growth yet.
I may try another. It did flower a nice all summer which was nice, and had nice variegated leaves which it kept into December.
All but one Nandina died; it was completely covered with hay mulch. The one little Photinia died.
Indian Hawthorn survived, but I protected it like it was a palm. I doubt it would have otherwise.
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Thanks for all the comments guys!! yeah Paul, that's the agave you gave me.. I am pushing things for sure. When I was buying stuff this weekend, I was like "how am I going to protect all this $#@% this winter"!! Oh well, worry about it then. Thanks Bill.. Looking forward to the visit!! Hopefully all my stuff or most will settle well this summer and will make it through next winter. I'm sure I'll be really busy this fall protecting stuff, probably not as busy as Bill though. Looking forward to his pics when he uncovers his Washy's soon!!! Can't wait to see you massive palms out of the boxes!! Send me an email Paul this week if you want me to pop by Friday...

Thanks again guys!!
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Erik,
So the abelia's are not hardy for you there? I appreciate your input as I was planning on ordering 50 for my new tropical business.
Do you think they would make it regularly? They say there zone 6 but if you had problems I'm wondering. Your worst winter is my best :lol: :lol: :lol:
If there as hardy as the burford hollies I'll be happy ordering them.
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Abelia

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Abelia are hardy here. I'm just a lousy gardener. :oops:
Others in the area are coming back well and looking good, with foliage but not flowers yet.
I have my tropical garden in the worst microclimate: NW slope of a hill; west side of house so morning shade/afternoon sun and lots of wind.
Plus the hens and the W going after it.
I'll try again with a larger specimen. I liked that the leaves looked good into winter. The little white flowers were secondary.
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Lousy gardener? No way! I'd say you got a bum plant. Thanks for the info.

Bill
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36f at 11:41pm there Bill

That doesn't look good. :shock:


and stop trying to steal my be-otch :wink:
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Thank God some nice weathers coming, the last few days
have been pretty tough. We didn't get frost on that cold
night, the wind was wiping and it must have clouded up
just in time.

Bill
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