Uncovered Palms this afternoon

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:04 am

-25C ?????

Holeeeeeeee cow!

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:18 am

Holy cow is right!
You may be getting more minutes of daylight than me by now, but I have my house windows all open at least as it if finally warmer outdoors than in. --Erik

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:39 pm

Here, march is the time of year when mother nature in goin threw menopause LOL. Like, wednesday is 16C here LOL And this mornig nwe had freezing rain .. the fargesia go tit a bit;s

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:50 pm

it was 20 C last week, and today it was -8 C

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:52 pm

It happened to the whole country.... even vcancouver seen a night at -7C.... in february.... thats death to them LOL.

IT happened here.... freezing rain....... then 5 cm of snow, then rain.... now everything is wet...but the bamboo isnt frozen.... just wet lol. Its gonn ahave a very nice week to rebound.... then abck to norms... its time to totaly unbury it...

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:31 am

Wow Canadianplant I hope all of your stuff is ok after that cold. Man I was annoyed when we hit the lower 20's, I don't feel bad anymore.
Lets hope the cold is done now for good.

Bill

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:48 am

I was looking back at the beginning of this thread and just wanted to point out that
(in case you didn't know)the reason small seedlings(even Washys,Butias etc)do so well,
is that they are so close to the ground they enjoy a micro-micro climate.
I covered my Tesan seedling with leaves and 4" of soil and it made it through this cold winter
with a minimum low of -12,the reason is the ground temp was around 35f with that much insulation the
seedling never saw below freezing temps,most likely stayed 35-40(f) all winter.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:37 am

I agree. The good thing is, the fargesia is the only thing ourside. The stupid iris n lily decided to wake up early, covered em, no worse for the ware. The bamboo leaves seem a bit crispy, but seeing as the handled 2 hours of light freezing rain, and a bout of -25 C ( -10 before the wind), it looks pretty damn good. The leaves are just starting to drop anyways....... so i dont think theres any REAL damage........

And thats a good point abotu the MM climates ( oooooh new short form fer plant geeks lol). Its gonna be a different story when u cant vury them in leaves. I imagine t would take alot of em to cover a 10 foot butia lol ( by then it shoud have somewhat climitized...

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:00 pm

hardyjim wrote:I was looking back at the beginning of this thread and just wanted to point out that
(in case you didn't know)the reason small seedlings(even Washys,Butias etc)do so well,
is that they are so close to the ground they enjoy a micro-micro climate.

I know, and I'm going to have to invest in some C9 lights for the coming winters

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:59 pm

Has anyone seen that person growing palms in zone 4 utah? he has 12 foot chamerops, and trachys, butia, banana, its crazy, builds a wood box, and puts 3 compact flouracent bulbs in, hasnt failed in 10 years he said...

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:16 pm

Artic palm is his name. He has some really nice palms for sure. Thick foam and heat, a perfect plan for you to get some really nice palms through your winters. Make sure you amend your soil to drain drain drain and you'll be killing it in 10 years too.

Bill

serj · Post by **serj** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:13 pm

His name is Kevin. Hi is known as Arctictropical.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:58 am

no his name is arctictropical LOL. Very smart dude. Very insightful. Hes probably what got me thinkin of this....... OH BTW, i ordered 2 musa from banooworld. Theyre in stock......

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:22 am

canadianplant wrote:no his name is arctictropical LOL. Very smart dude. Very insightful. Hes probably what got me thinkin of this....... OH BTW, i ordered 2 musa from banooworld. Theyre in stock......

Musa=what?

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:51 am

anybody have a link to the Utah palms?

Searching google for "arctictropical" got this:

"Basically, it looks like the Earth released a gigantic fart of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere - and globally the Earth warmed by about 5C (9F).

from BBC in 2006.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:47 am

I made a post that idnt apperantly work LOL

ya its a musa basjoo....

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:50 am

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load ... DNfe2jDTQw

I knew i had the link somewhere muhahahha...

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:23 pm

canadianplant wrote:http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load ... DNfe2jDTQw

I knew i had the link somewhere muhahahha...

BARB
You can use the search function and pull up all Arctictropicals post's

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:47 pm

Holy cow, those palms!!!!! wonderful pictures.

Imagine that! In Utah, on open land that the wind obviously rips through during winter (judging from the tiedowns), I am so very impressed.

Fabulously healthy specimens.

Jaw-dropping gorgeous...so why does my Nainital look like crap??? (you don't need to answer that).

Thanks for the link, canadianplants.

Barb

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:34 pm

I was finally able to uncover the palms for good after all of this rain. 2 of the trachys have already started growing new fronds!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:35 pm

That's great Cameron.

How about some pics?

Barb

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:42 am

Thats awsome dude......... you seem pretty warm there..... another blast of warm weather all accross the country....

im going to plant my himrod grape tomorrow. WE can still go to below 0C at night ( untill may sometime), but hell be fine, the days more then rebound in teps..

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:04 pm

Here are some new leaves (the short & fat ones in the middle) on a couple of my trachys:

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Sorry for the quality, used my Blackberry again

Cameron

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:18 pm

Outstanding, Cameron.
They'll be knockin' the fence over soon.
Barb

gpenny · Post by **gpenny** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:03 am

Butia seedlings are super tough! I have hundreds that voluntarily seed every year and I don't think I have ever seen one with cold damage. This was even when mid-sized and large specimens were hurt! It's like they have antifreeze running through them!

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:59 pm

Barb: Right now I'm just waiting for any adult leaves

gPenny: That's good to hear! I have a feeling I'll need to start providing better protection next year.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:01 pm

I'm just waiting for any adult leaves

Me too on the newly germinated Foxtails.
Palms all look the same when young.

like they have antifreeze running through them!

That would be a hybrid we'd all want

Barb

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:40 pm

I'm going to be uncovering the palms again within a few days, and I'll post more pics when I do. They've been protected since December 11th.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:29 am

Nice job Cameron! The palms should take off this season.

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:54 am

It was a nice day today, so I decided to uncover the t. fortunei. They've been under this protection for about 4 months. I only protected them when temps began to reach -10 C. The thermometer on my back deck saw a low of -17.2 C, but the palms are in a more sheltered area, so they might have been at -15 C. I know I could have taken the protection off a month ago, but I wanted to baby the palms a little bit after the cold winter here! I don't think my area is supposed to receive any more temps below 0 C.

Recycling bags on top, dry leaves and mulch below:

The top leaves looked nice and dry so far:

All the palms survived with little damage, as usual:

Some even grew new fronds over the winter:

Cameron.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:57 am

Dude, great job!

They look pertty good.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:43 pm

Good job Cameron.
-15C and no wind exposure is a sure thing!

Barb

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:42 pm

thanks!

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Fri May 04, 2012 4:30 pm

I uncovered my T. fortunei yesterday. I could have uncovered them a month ago, but my area tends to get quite a bit of cold rain during the spring. All five palms survived, and there is 15% leaf burn/dieback tops. Every single palm started growing new leaves through the winter, while covered. I will take some closer pics in a few days:

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Fri May 04, 2012 6:50 pm

looks good Cameron. All you need is some HEAT! It's been cool down here so I can only imagine how cold it's been at your place.

PalmsNorth.com

Uncovered Palms this afternoon

new leaves on trachys