Hardy Species?

Wollemi25 · Post by **Wollemi25** » Mon May 30, 2011 7:22 pm

I am thinking about growing some hardy palms. Are all of these palms hardy in Zone 8?

Arenga micrantha

Brahea aculeata
Brahea brandegeei
Brahea decumbens
Brahea pimo
Brahea sarukhanii
Brahea sp. (Nuri)
Brahea sp. (Super Silver)

Caryota maxima Himalaya

Parajubaea cocoides

Phoenix theophrastii

Sabal domingensis

Syagrus romanzoffiana Litoralis

Trachycarpus geminisectus
Trachycarpus latisectus
Trachycarpus martianus (Nepal Form)
Trachycarpus oreophilus (Naga Hills)
Trachycarpus princeps

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Mon May 30, 2011 8:37 pm

I haven't been to Victoria in nearly 20 years, but I recall it as being Trachycarpus heaven.
What palms are folks growing around there currently?
That would be your best start.

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:27 am

You would probably be pushing it with a few of those species: the arenga, some brahea, caryota, possibly parajubaea, possibly phoenix, maybe the sabal domingensis, syagrus, a couple of the trachycarpus etc are likely all not hardy enough. You should try out Brahea armata, B. "Super Silver", etc. There are a lot of conflicting reports about the true hardiness of P. theophrastii, but I would still try one. You could also try to get some P. loureiroi. Instead of S. domingensis, why not try S. palmetto? You could also think about trying W. filifera from a hardier provenance! Although something might be hardy to zone 8, a zone 8 winter in inland California or northern Florida is different than a zone 8 winter in BC. Good luck

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:49 am

eh dude - everything im saying is from reading, NOT experience

The Brahea, may not like the wet winters you guys get there ( im aware victoria gets less rain then the west of v island, and the LML). If i had to say id say your temps are ok for some, but id be really worried about how soaked they can get.... look at this spring :S

Caryota - RPS lists this "hardy to -8c". I think when its smaller, the right microclimate, and protection youd make it survive, but its less then 50/50 IMO

Parajubea - Same as caryota, but I think they are slightly hardier ?

Phoenix - I know there are some phoenix growing around there, but after a cold winter, most of the people loose them. They can take some cold, but not long term cold ( especialy with no sun). i was told by berrie ( on SSI), that they grow there to a point, but once they get some hight, they are almost always wipped out.

Sabal - Ive always wondered how sabal would grow there. I always assumed you got to wet in the winter for the dryer loving species.

Syagrus - Same as caryota

Trachy - As far as im aware, trachys are rock solid there. I would try em all just to see.

If you got the cash ( and heart) to try anything you listed, why not! Just be aware that some wont make it at all. The best part is, you wont know till you try, and im sure youll suprise lots of people!

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:14 am

Basically agree with above-and as mentioned why not give it a shot?

The desert palms MAY have an issue with moisture there also,
possibly too wet for Princeps,not sure if it's been tried in that
area...they are prone to damp off when small and lots of rain
could knock one out at any size there-possibly.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:11 am

Since were ont he subject, try out some Chamedorea microspadix , and radicalis ( radicalis and the arborescent form). They stay small, need dappled light ( so they can be sheilded under trees), and comming from south america, they are used to wetter weather.

Since your trying these, or some, why not needle palm? Im sure ive read that some people grow them around there.

Also, if your going to try a queen palm, try a hardy version of the king palm (archantophoenix

I sort of skipped the Theophratsii ( for some reason i assumed canariensis, even though you didnt say it LOL), daves garden rates them at 7B, but i havnt found anything regarding them being pushed. Only one way to find out!

Are you trying any colocasia or alocasia? Canna?

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:16 am

I'm a big fan of Chameadorea radicalis, so I 2nd that. They are from the mountains of Tamaulipas, Mexico, and thus not rainforest, but mine are quite tolerant of sun, rain, etc.
And Jesse--all three are alive!

Huge surprise.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:18 am

EXCELLENT!!!! Some good news after the winter!. How is the growth on em?

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Tue May 31, 2011 3:59 pm

Canadianplant, good job on suggesting Chameadorea! I know that Joe is growing some on SSI, so they should at least stand a chance in Victoria.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:07 pm

Their one of my top 3 favorite palms. Too bad all thats offered as far as plants go are Elagans, and Cataractarum ( not a bad thing I just have both already). I tried radicalis seed, i failed that worse then oprah on a diet

They rotted

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