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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:18 am
by TimMAz6
Hi Damir,

nice snowy/frosty plants. Do you protect the palms in winter?

Hi Barb,

Too funny with Midas Muffler! Around here Pizza Hut's still have the original architecture from the 70's.

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:26 am
by DesertZone
Thanks for posting the vids. WOW!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:10 am
by damir
thanks!

usually i do wrapp the trachy and cover it with nylon. this year it wasnt too cold for it,even it has some leaf damage now. but it is important that plant dosent die. i cut all burned leaves in spring, and it recovers. cidp is first year in ground,it was wrapped all the time,till 10 days ago when temps began ti rise,and i keep it unwrapped and open now, as long as it will be good weather. if it gets worse,ill wrapp it again.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:26 pm
by damir
some pics few years ago, summer,croatia , makarska


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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:37 pm
by damir
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:50 pm
by damir
I have more, just need to post it on imageshack. will be soon. makarska is place in Dalmatia (croatia), known as home of dalmatian dog
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very nice place to spend your hollydays in. :D

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:10 pm
by lucky1
Wow! (except the photo of your foot) :lol: :lol:

Such healthy looking pine trees overhanging the beach and on the mountain slopes. Our pines aren't that lush looking.
Bougainvillea grows there, or is it potted? And those palms!
The CIDPs along the waterfront road are sooooooo beautiful, interesting pruning technique, considerably different from how Southern California pruners do it.
Their aim is a clear trunk with no hint of old leaf bases, then the "pineapple".

And the CIDPs in fruit!
Did you start your CIDP from one of those seeds on the beach?

Thanks for the great pics...and shoe size 11 :lol: :lol:
Barb

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:30 pm
by DesertZone
Good pics! 8)

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:26 am
by damir
i didn't grow mine cidp from seeds of those from dalmatia. i bought mine in one nursery,for about 5 dolars. it was damaged a lot but central spear was green and healthy,and i took it. regular price was about 40 bucks,but because it was damaged there was a discount.
dalmatia have mediteranean climate, so lot of exotics grow there. palms,olives,lemons,orange,agave,cactus,grapes....
we have very good vines
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http://www.zora-hotel.com/slike/velike/ ... pota_v.jpg

http://enogastromama.files.wordpress.co ... =490&h=456

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the best wine "dingach"

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:07 am
by lucky1
damir,

Ah...to be able to grow bougainvillea, olives, lemons and CIDP outdoors is a wonderful dream!

Once again thanks for great links, fabulous Mediterranean climate and those pictures of limestone bluffs at 20-34 degree slopes!
The 2nd and 5th pictures remind me of similar steep vineyards we saw many years ago during a boat trip down the Rhine in Germany.

Photos make me want to get out of here...permanently. :lol:

Barb

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:05 am
by DesertZone
lucky1 wrote:damir,

Ah...to be able to grow bougainvillea, olives, lemons and CIDP outdoors is a wonderful dream!

Photos make me want to get out of here...permanently. :lol:

Barb
How nice it would be. I just need :clock: and money. :x :D

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:48 pm
by damir
yes. time and money. i would like to go to mexico for example, or usa. one day....

barb, i think we were born in wrong climates. :D i would like to change my 7a zone for 10b.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:51 pm
by lucky1
hey, damir, you forgot CANADA (in the summer!) :lol: :lol:
would like to change my 7a zone for 10b
Me too!
...so I cold grow Zone 29 plants and protect them in winter. :wink:

Barb

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:46 pm
by damir
here is my yucca brevifolia ;)

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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:52 pm
by lucky1
Nice, damir!
Mine might be his brother:

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Barb

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:39 am
by sidpook
Thanks for the great pics Damir...I was in Zagreb once, loved it,...Never to the coast!

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:10 am
by DesertZone
damir wrote:yes. time and money. i would like to go to mexico for example, or usa. one day....

barb, i think we were born in wrong climates. :D i would like to change my 7a zone for 10b.
I think I would trade my zone 8b for a zone 9, I'm never happy. :roll: :lol:

Nice j-tree by the way. 8)

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:31 pm
by damir
sidpook wrote:Thanks for the great pics Damir...I was in Zagreb once, loved it,...Never to the coast!

hi sidpook. zagreb is nice, i lived there for 5 years. you should go to coast next time you visit us.
rgds :D

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:37 pm
by damir
DesertZone wrote:
damir wrote:yes. time and money. i would like to go to mexico for example, or usa. one day....

barb, i think we were born in wrong climates. :D i would like to change my 7a zone for 10b.
I think I would trade my zone 8b for a zone 9, I'm never happy. :roll: :lol:

Nice j-tree by the way. 8)

thanks d.z. if this global warming doesent help us to jump in higher zone, nothing will. :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:58 pm
by damir
nice joshua tree barb. mine and yours could be the same age. mine is 5 years now.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:01 pm
by lucky1
I think mine's maybe 4 years old, damir.

Barb

PS--Cameron is going to post some de-lidding pictures in his Germination post.
So that we know which end of which seed to de-lid.
Trachies/chamaerops are somewhere near the middle (I found out), so we will need any successful de-lidding pictures added to his post.

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:05 am
by sidpook
damir wrote:
sidpook wrote:Thanks for the great pics Damir...I was in Zagreb once, loved it,...Never to the coast!

hi sidpook. zagreb is nice, i lived there for 5 years. you should go to coast next time you visit us.
rgds :D
I definitely will. I have been to the Italian side of the adriatic only. And actually the time I was in Zagreb it was still the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Quite different from now I suppose.

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:06 pm
by damir
big difference now, then in former yugoslavia. in year or 2 we'll be member of EU.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:29 pm
by damir
my CIDP survived it's first winter in the ground in zone 7a.

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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:35 pm
by damir
one trachy fortunei defoliated (north exposure) other one (south exposure) just minor damage. place in the garden is very important, i would say.

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also i planted one magnolia grandiflora , two days ago.

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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:03 am
by DesertZone
Amazing the trachy defoliated, and the cidp made it with leaves. :shock:

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:11 am
by lucky1
I second what Aaron said.

Would have expected the opposite results.
Barb

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:28 pm
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Good job, Damir! What was your lowest temp this winter?

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:42 am
by damir
lowest temp was -13 C. lot of days around -10C, and few weeks temp was not above 0C. here is problem in europe that we have wet winers. if the palm roots are dry in winter than it can survive much lower temps than it says for every specie. also long period of time temps do not rise above zero C.
from mine experience , very important is that center of the palm does not get wet in winter,so you will not have spear pulling in spring. my cidp was in some kind of cage,made from old windows with double glasses. also i put nylon at the ground inside the cage so there is no evaporation from the ground. then i wrapped the palm in many lays of fabrics. on that i put one smaller wood box and all of that was inside the glass box made of windows.
trachy wasnt covered. so now i had spear pulled from both of them. i washed it, the hole inside the palm and water it with mix of water and fungicide, antracol,so it recovers. this i did and last year and it recovers. here are some pics what i did.

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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 am
by damir
i open the cage few times in winter when temps were in +. dark inside is not the problem for palms, but lack of the air is so fungus showed up.

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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:52 am
by damir
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i like this pic. 2 weeks ago. now temps are 20C,morning 5 to 10C. spring is finally here! :D

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:55 am
by damir
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one rhapy hystrix is comig out. just one, but :D

cameron, did you recive seeds i sent you?

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:22 am
by Cameron_z6a_N.S.
Hi Damir,

Great pics! That's good to see that the needle palm is germinating for you! Unfortunately, the seeds never arrived.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:45 am
by lucky1
Damir,
great photos and description, thanks.
also i put nylon at the ground inside the cage so there is no evaporation from the ground
I like that idea.

Congrats on the Hystrix germination!

I think Trachies need to be near a building for protection.
Mine didn't do well here even in summer when exposed to hot weather and drying winds.
Does much better now 4 feet from the East wall of house.

Good luck with fungicide results.
Barb

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:26 am
by TimMAz6
nice protection of the Phoenix!

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:20 am
by DesertZone
TimMAz6 wrote:nice protection of the Phoenix!
I agree. :shock:

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:21 am
by damir
finally spring is here. i planted some new things, pics soon. opuntias are ready to flower... cold hardy agave planted outdoor, some new seedlings like trachy bulgaria (hardiest trachy there is), some yuccas, mostly aloifolia.
my fruits are growing, kiwi, mini kiwi actinidia arguta , it is cold hardy to -30C, all you that live in cooler climates should get some of this one. also siberian lemon, poncirus trifoliata, cold hardy to -20C.

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:06 am
by damir
here is a pic of my broken joshua tree. neighbour's kids were playing around it when i planted it in the ground one month ago,and..... i took hormone for roots in hope that it could make new ones, the part that felt off. yesterday i was surprised when i dug it up and saw many new roots,also the part of the trunk that stayed in the ground has some new leaves. now i have two brevifolias. ;))) first i was mad at the kids, but it was my mistake cause i didnt put something around it so it is visible. now i am happy. ;))))

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:11 am
by damir
here are my new yuccas grown from seeds that i got from mesagarden,new mexico.

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here is araucaria araucana,2nd year grown from seed

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opuntia new growth,camanchica and fragilis in back,also agave lechuiguilla
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:16 am
by damir
here is my new fruit, zyzyphus jujuba. jujube tree, chineese date.

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cacty, something coccineus if i remember...

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and joshua tree planted outdoor in hope it will stay there lot of years ;)


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