Cycad Leaf Shapes

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:40 pm

Just some misc............Feel free to add more

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:45 pm

Do you have a Merolae Dioon? I have two and they are BY FAR the sharpest and most painful leaves I have on ANYTHING!!
They make the spines on the "Madagascar Palm" seem like pillows.
How is your "waliak" doing?? Mine is doing good and I THINK (keping digits crossed) that is about to put out a new leaf.
But yea, see about getting a Merolae.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:03 pm

Cycas revoluta

Dioon edule

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:40 pm

Barb - Thanks for adding the photos!

Wes - I don't have any of the Merolae form, Do have "Palma Sola" & " No. Mexico" Probably wouldn't want to trip and fall on any of them

Got a couple more Cycas "Wilailak" in with trimmed fronds for shipping, The roots on these are long! had about 6' on one.
( I guess that stands to reason taking their habitat into account, a couple sources has this listed as C.petraea now -not sure if that is validated yet)

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:39 pm

If you ever want to sell one of your "Wilailak" , just let me know. I'll pay you whatever you want. I really like them.
But yea, get a "Merolae" as they are a cool looking Dioon. They have a very cool caudex that looks like it has moss growing on it and the first 6" of each leaf. Mine are from Chumley. All my stuff from him is doing well except the "Ciircanalis" sp?.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:56 pm

Well...You could always buy some from here

http://shop.vendio.com/coontie57/store.html

I like to grow most of mine from seed but this actually worked out cheaper.

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:44 pm

I think I might order another $100 worth of stuff from Robert actually. Not sure a Willy will be in my purchase, but I think his caudex size for the $$ is the absolute best.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:14 am

Hey good prices on that link Steve.
They're in Florida, probably won't/can't ship to Canada.
Pity.
Coz' I was thinking of the 2 for 1 cardboard palms...(drool)

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:29 am

Do you have anyone in the states that you visit? Can always have some shipped there and them drive them back across.
Will probably have some seed coming in, let me know if you want some !

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:59 am

Unfortunately, don't KNOW anyone below the border (other than you folks, ha ha)

Steve, thanks for the offer but I'm way too impatient for seed...except maybe the key limes

Prices were sure good on that site, and with the Cdn dollar up...there wouldn't be much pain in buying American.

But if it took 7 days for mail from Toronto (for the Musa), hell, the plant would have a birthday coming from Florida!
Cheers
Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:33 pm

Dioon in its own leaf shadow. Fuzzy (I held my breath, too!)

Cycas revoluta...waiting for signs of growth...

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue May 01, 2007 7:01 am

Those are nice close ups!
( and I defineately need to get a new camera

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue May 01, 2007 11:21 am

Thanks Steve...
Closeups invariably show how complex and intricate plant-parts really are --
the spines, the little hairs...what a marvel of nature!
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:29 am

( I think E.natalensis but still need to work up a proper ID)

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue May 22, 2007 8:43 am

Lots of defined spikes...very healthy looking plant.
Nicely done Steve
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:43 am

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:10 pm

I'm probably wrong, but revoluta and spinulosum are stunning next to each other.
Also like the camera shooting from the bottom, and the third from the top.
You must've been hanging from the rafters for that last shot.

Looks like 11 fronds? You're right (AGAIN) about odd number of fronds.
Man that's a lot for one plant to put out at a time.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:32 pm

Here's the plant all those leaves are from.

I've just sort of let everthing grow together this year..........

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:31 pm

I can imagine how lovely and fresh the air is in the GH.
Everything looks so healthy and the humidity must be like Hawaii!
That floridana has so many new stems, they look like fireplace matches stuck in a base!!!! well done.

Your plants have put on a lot of growth.
They're definitely thriving. I'd spend hours each day puttering around in a GH. Heaven!

Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:56 pm

Can't remember where I posted an earlier pic...anyway, here's the progress:

Cycad spinulosum:

Dioon vasquezii:

Barb.

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:15 pm

That is a GREAT looking tree. You should be very very proud of that!!!!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:33 pm

Ha ha, thanks, Wes, it'll be a while till any of 'em are a tree...but I am still thrilled with these babies.
We cycad lovers are all a little crazy...

but it's a nice passion.
Barb

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:44 pm

Great looking cycads. Did you get all of yours from Lori?

Steve,
Your greenhouse looks amazing.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:55 am

Thanks Wes! My little 12' X 12' piece of the tropics here in KS

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:17 am

Wes, yes, I got them all from Lori, and I'm a happy camper

The only one I haven't taken a pic of is the 2-year old Zamia pica variegata...it's been slow to respond despite the same care as the others. But it'll come along (when IT'S ready, ha ha)...

I was really impressed with the size and mass of the root systems from Lori, especially the Spinulosum and the 3 year old Zamia vasquesii.

Barb

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:15 pm

After reading what you all of done with your cycads, I am going out to get some manure and see if I can bring mine to life. Mine loooks sick and it is not growing. I planted it in a 75% sand and 25% compost mixture and it is not happy. I will post a picture later.

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:01 pm

Wes, take a hand full (yes, sometimes a guys gotta do what a guys gotta do) and evenly spread it out around the plant. Then water in good. If it is in a pot, make sure you water it well outside (I know the plant probably IS outside but I thought I better warn you) as there will be A LOT of urine come out the bottom of the pot. After the really soaking watering, then every day water it well again. Also, if you have old leaves and are thinking about cutting them off, do it, but if you don't, don't worry about it. However, cutting the old leaves WILL quicken the flush a lot.
I know with my large Taitungensis, if you cut the existing leaves off, you will have a new flush in 21 days. It all depends on what you want, a full sago that is short with lots of leaves, or a taller sago with more trunk but less leaves.
But do me a favor if you do the manure thing, please keep us posted on what your finding.
I might add that the cutting of old flush to quicken the new one is not proven, thats just my opinion.

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:32 pm

Thanks,
I will try what you have recommended. I willing to try it because it just doesn't look good.

It is planted in the ground so I will just add around the plant.

Thanks, I will keep you posted.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:24 pm

Wes, (North Van) If you have one of those moisture meters, sink it in to the root zone and see what it says. ( Might be a good idea to rule out the possibility that it is sitting damp or dry before adding anything else.)

What kind is it?

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:22 pm

Did you ever get a final ID on that one, Steve?

Zamia vasquezii (3 yrs old, Lori's).
Two leaves flushed (the newest one has five blades, the other--a very small leaf beneath the new one--had six). The pic of the little leaf was too fuzzy to load.

I love cycad leaves, they're so distinctive with their tiny armour points.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:38 am

Hi Barb.
Are you referring to the one I had posted in the other thread?

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:33 pm

Steve it was on page 1 of this thread, and you thought it might be E.natalensis.
Whatever it is, it's stunning.
I'm more amazed by these beauties every time I view them.

West Van Wes, I hope your plant kicks into gear.
Let us know if you got any cow manure, ha ha.

I had always heard NOT to fertilize a plant if it's sick.
Maybe it's just slow/late like some of mine.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:51 pm

Barb, Been too hot here lately for me to keep track of what I've posted

More than likely E.natalensis, going to have to wait for larger leaves to be sure.
Your Z.vasquezii looks good

Mine usually grow at a good pace from May to October.

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:55 pm

Ya, I hear you Steve.
Heat can suck all my energy out, too.

I'm delighted to hear Z. vasquezii might grow into October...

Hope you get a cool down soon...a rain would be most welcome I bet.
We got our rain last night and the morning today.
I was so thrilled it was cool, I almost ran naked in it. ALMOST. ha ha

Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:13 pm

My other cycas revoluta (storebought this winter) was awfully slow to flush, but here it is.

8 fronds (though I expected 9, ha ha).

Gotta get some new pots. This one's in a cheap clay pot that is falling apart before my eyes.
Touch the pot and you get red all over your hands that won't wash off.
So much for bargain pots...
Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:14 pm

AWSOME Lucky!!!!!
I was surprised to see that one of my Revoluta is putting out it's second flush in 2 months. First one was only 5 leaves, not sure how many this one is.
That flush on yours looks GREAT!!!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:19 am

Nice photos and looks great !
( Your Trachy looks happy too

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:41 pm

Barb,
My c. panzi is starting a two leaf flush now. One looks very small bu the other one looks like a normal size.
I will post a pic soon.

You c. revoluta looks great.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:06 pm

We cycad lovers go gaga over a flush, and it's certainly worth the wait some of us endure.
To get a second flush (like most of you do) would be heaven.
These plants are true marvels of nature.

BTW, Lori Pickering of Jurassic Nursery has a new newsletter that details a reprinted article about cycad biology and the symbiotic relationship between the species and various beetles and weevils. It made fascinating reading.
Hope she'll post the newsletter on her member's page (hint, hint, Lori).

Thanks folks. And, yes, Steve, that Trachy has NEVER looked better.

Barb

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:01 am

Wes North Van wrote:Barb,
My c. panzi is starting a two leaf flush now. One looks very small bu the other one looks like a normal size.
I will post a pic soon.

You c. revoluta looks great.

WES!!!!!!!! Where are the updated pics of the Panzi flush?????????????????

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