How are Your Cycads fairing this Winter ?

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:41 am

I kept most everything in the GH this Winter, Nothing died, so either I have figured out proper watering or just got lucky

Cycas taitungensis Seedling

Zamia vasquezii in a hanging basket.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:53 pm

Beautiful greenhouse! Gorgeous specimens.
What are those two little seedlings in the Pachypodium lamerei pot?
Presume you've had seeds from your Pachy?

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:11 pm

I haven't had any of the Pachypodiums flower yet, The largest ones are about 3-4' tall now so maybe one will surprise me this year

Those other plants in the container are Ponytail Palm seedlings ~ Beaucarnea recurvata ( a succelent )
These and the Pachy both take the same culture so it works out well.

~ Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:39 pm

Those ponytail palms will look super growing up on either side of the Pachys...bet they'll never lean into it! Ouch!

I have a new Pachy this year to replace a 3-year old one that "someone" left under a roof-drip (the Pachy rotted and fell over stone dead, the "someone" almost had the same fate when I found out).
The 3yr old Pachy had just that year branched out (with no help from me) at just under 3 feet tall. It looked gorgeous but I suspect that would've been a little low to have it branch.
Hard on the legs trying to walk around it, ha ha.

I'm envious of your GH.
Barb

oppalm · Post by **oppalm** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:06 pm

Steve - your place is amazing. Everytime I see pictures I am surprised to see more stuff. Keep up the good work. I am getting antsy for spring. Moved abput 50 palms outside onto my patio on Monday to take advantage of the nice weather. Hopefully I can keep them out until next week by the looks of the temps. So far everything looks good.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:33 am

I didn't lose as much This Winter as compared to last, so it's all good

I can't wait to start planting..............Been hauling some stuff in and out too, using laundry tubs for the bigger stuff this year. ...lol

oppalm · Post by **oppalm** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:58 am

Knnn - Hey whatever it takes. I stopped by the Dollar General store the other day to check out their garden planters and bought some fairly large planters for $4 each. I'd guess they are probably 7 gallon containers. Planters - yea good. I used a big tub like yours to plant a banana tree last year and it was heavy.

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:47 pm

Your cycads look great. I have had problems recently with yellowing of my sago.
My Cycas Panzihuiensis is doing fine but both cycads spent the winter inside.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:06 pm

How did your Cycas panzihuiensis do this Winter as compared to the Sago?

Some of my Sagos' oldest fronds usually will yellow out a couple weeks before a new flush starts, other than that it could just be a nutritional deficiency from cold roots. warmer weather will help it

oppalm · Post by **oppalm** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:18 am

warmer weather cures lots of ills in the plant world. Stating the obvious.

Post by **Jay-Admin** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:06 pm

I only have two sagos in the garage. They are doing great this winter.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:17 pm

There are SIX pups on my old, neglected Sago! Yippppeeeee!
I didn't dare remove and plant any of the pups when I repotted today. Can they be left on? If so, what does the plant look like later on...is it a mess?
My camera is pretty crappy so will wait until they DO something before I get a better pic.

This was it before repotting (with only one pup showing on this side, but it's basically invisible).

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:30 pm

knn, I found this reference to yellowing sago fronds as a deficiency:

As with most plants, there are some problems to look out for. A condition called frizzle top is probably the most common problem. This is a manganese deficiency causing the new leaves or upper leaves to turn yellow. This will start as spots and eventually the entire leaf is covered. There is a way to correct this. Spray the leaves with manganese sulfate. Once a month for three months mix one teaspoon of manganese sulfate per gallon of water. You can also apply one to five pounds (gauging with the size of the plant) of manganese to the soil in the springtime to correct or prevent the problem. Along with this recommendation, it is always wise to have a soil pH check and to check the moisture content of the soil. As always, too much water and less than desirable drainage will cause root damage. If that is the case, the sago will be unable to absorb the nutrients.
Source: http://www.emilycompost.com/sago_palm1.htm

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:39 am

I have mixed results this winter with my Cycad/Dioon...

1 King Sago w/ 18" tall trunk. This is the "King" that I am not sure if it truely is a "King". I bought it at "Wal Mart" when it was marked at $10. It has a trunk that is elongated with a 18" trunk but the trunk is only about 8" circum.Basically, take a softball bat and start at the hitting side, come down about 18" and thats what the trunk looks like. Anyways, it is doing about whats expected from a Cycad inside and in dark conditions (basement) with the old fronds looking dried out and ready to cut come Spring. Those fronds are at least two years old as they were on it when I bought it a year ago. The new fronds I put on this last year are long and arching and beautiful. Looks like a miniature CIDP.

2 King Sagos both with a caudex of a little bigger than a softball. Both did great. Actually better than they did last year after being in the exact same place. Last year I had much more yellow fingureing. This year I only have about 8 yellow fingures combines on both trees.

3 King Sagos w/ baseball size caudex. 2 are NOT doing good. Both have almost all yellow fronds. the one thou is perfect. I think after getting them out in the sun (again, in the basement, but in a place where frankly, they got forgotten about) they will be fine.

1 "Shogun Cycad". Doing great. Shows no signs of stress or any problems.

2 "Edule Dioon". 1 is doing great, no sigs of anything bad. 1 is lossing a frond.

2 "Taitungensis/Guizhouensis Hybrid", Both are great. No signs of any problems. Probably did the best of all species other than.....

1 "Holmgreenii Dioon", Actually had a new frond start on this about a month ago. Slow to peak out, but is doing the best of any species I have.

2 "Taitungensis Cycad", Both did really good. Niether tree showing any problems.

2 "Merolae Dioon", 1 is good but did lose one frond. Other one did not do well with lossing 3-4 fronds. As far as rankings, this species did second to the worst behind....

1 Wilailak Cycad, When I got this, it had about 8 fronds, now it has 5. Had real problems with this browning leafs. Worst species I had this Winter.

1 "Ciircinalis Cycad", Did pretty good. It is currently lossing a leaf as I write this, but all in all did pretty good.

5 "Taitungensis/Guizhouensis Hybrid seeds" , three have started the caudex off the root, 2 have not but do have a healty root on them and I expect a start of a caudex any time.

18 "Edule Dioon seeds", have had 2 pop, nothing else.

1 "Cardboard", saved this tree as I had seen this Zamia at "Lowe's" for a year. When I seen it the last time it was pushed way back in the back and REALLY getting neglected. So I saved it. Doing OK but does have a bunch of yellow fingures. I have a feeling thou that once it gets outside in teh Spring, WATCH OUT!

Can't wait till Spring when I can get some new growth out of all these.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:12 pm

You have a nice collection started there............

Spent the day trying to group mine in one spot in the GH, I start every year this way but it never last long..........

Barb,
From what I have heard the offsets should be about "baseball" size before trying to separate.
Some info on this is here> http://cycadjungle.8m.com/cycadjungle/M ... tions.html

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:46 pm

That one in the middle all the way to the back looks just like my Cycad that I bought for $10 at Wal Mart. Is it really a King??

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:55 pm

Just your average Sago.........That one did arrive from Wal-Mart a few days ago , Just can't seem to walk past them without buying one more

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:25 pm

Moved everything around yet again, This might be a better photo of it.

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:58 pm

That is a great looking selection of plants. I hope to have a collection like that one day.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:13 am

Thanks Wes!
Most of my Cycads will be two years from seed this Summer. They do really well in a GH, just wish I had started this 20 years ago

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:42 pm

Steve, sorry, thought I'd already replied. Thanks for that link. I've bookmarked it for when my pups get to be baseball size.

Ever seen a Sago where they DIDN'T cut them off? Wonder what it would look like.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:35 am

Barb - Been trying to find a decent habitat photo...........

I think they look nice when allowed to develop as nature intended, but from a landscaping perspective, most people seem to prefer a large single trunk.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:37 pm

"most people prefer a single trunk"...
isn't that funny. Here's me trying to train cotoneaster as Standards. Yet my Sago I'll let go wild with its pups hangin around like at the dog park

I've looked at Sago pics on Google Images, can't find even ONE where they've let it go wild.
Thanks
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:04 pm

Not in habitat, but close enough........

http://www.da-academy.org/dagardens_sago4.html

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:51 pm

Wow, those pups are almost killin' momma. Wow, talk about wild.
Amazing how the little guys grow so tall, yet the parent doesn't "stay above".

I think I'll leave my pups on. This'll take forever but I can wait

Thanks for the link, Steve.

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How are Your Cycads fairing this Winter ?

How are Your Cycads fairing this Winter ?

Thank You!

Knnn

Wes,

Wes,

Cycas revoluta

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Knnn

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