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Need help with Sabal Minor

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:20 pm
by cuja1
I just got back from a trip south yesterday where I bought a nice sized Sabal Minor. I went to pot it today and I saw that the roots were tightly wrapped around the bottom of the pot. I tried to untangle them but they were thick and rubbery. It seemed like if I tried to untangle them I would break the roots. I've heard that these don't transplant well so I decided to pot it as is. There were tiny roots shooting down from the ring of roots wrapped around in a circle so it looked like it would continue to grow roots downward.

What do you think? If I don't unravel the roots will it die? If I do unravel the roots will it die? Am I out of luck either way? What's my best option?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:10 pm
by Okanagan desert-palms
Cuja don`t touch those S. minor roots. Sabal minor will find the new soil on it`s own! Plant in a tall pot rather than a shallow pot. My 2 cents worth.


John

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:38 pm
by cuja1
Ok thank you John

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:28 pm
by TerdalFarm
Yes, sensitive roots. But, don't fret over the ones that broke. They will grow back, but slowly. I love these, but they are slow.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:44 pm
by cuja1
TerdalFarm wrote:Yes, sensitive roots. But, don't fret over the ones that broke. They will grow back, but slowly. I love these, but they are slow.
Ok thank you!

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:53 pm
by TerdalFarm
I grow them from seeds. If you find a big one for sale, get it, but it won't be cheap.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:16 pm
by cuja1
TerdalFarm wrote:Yes, sensitive roots. But, don't fret over the ones that broke. They will grow back, but slowly. I love these, but they are slow.
What do you think about breaking the roots. I'm worried that it is root bound but I left it alone for fear that I would kill it if I broke too many. Should I take the chance on breaking the roots rather than let it be root bound?

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:36 pm
by TerdalFarm
I'm no expert.

Root bound is not a big problem. But, if it was me, I'd get some scissors or shears and cut away the plastic pot as best I could.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:44 pm
by cuja1
TerdalFarm wrote:I'm no expert.

Root bound is not a big problem. But, if it was me, I'd get some scissors or shears and cut away the plastic pot as best I could.
I was able to get the pot off, but the roots were tightly wound around the bottom. They were thick and rubbery so I just decided to plant it like that in a pot.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:46 pm
by cuja1
cuja1 wrote:
TerdalFarm wrote:I'm no expert.

Root bound is not a big problem. But, if it was me, I'd get some scissors or shears and cut away the plastic pot as best I could.
I was able to get the pot off, but the roots were tightly wound around the bottom. They were thick and rubbery so I just decided to plant it like that in a pot.
I planted it in a bigger pot that is. I plan on planting it in the ground next spring.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:50 pm
by TerdalFarm
Good choice. They (the roots) will figure it out, over a few years. Don't worry.

How big is it? Any palmate leaves yet?

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:47 pm
by cuja1
TerdalFarm wrote:Good choice. They (the roots) will figure it out, over a few years. Don't worry.

How big is it? Any palmate leaves yet?
Here's a couple pics of it.

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I'm real impressed with this plant. I got it for $20 in Nashville. But it was really hard to find a nursery there that sold hardy palms.

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:57 am
by KrisK
Nice size minor for $20!
Is it a Monrovia? Funny to see an obscure plant like sabal minor being sold by such a big outfit! Everybody's advice is good, don't try to unwrap the roots. If you break a root it will die all the way back to the rootball. I had the bright idea of separating a triple sabal minor blue pot once. One actually lived, totally wasn't worth it. I've experienced them wanting to rot over winter in a pot - it's because I'm heavy handed with the watering can. I'd plant that bad boy in the spring as soon as your soil temps warm to 60F.

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:32 pm
by cuja1
KrisK wrote:Nice size minor for $20!
Is it a Monrovia? Funny to see an obscure plant like sabal minor being sold by such a big outfit! Everybody's advice is good, don't try to unwrap the roots. If you break a root it will die all the way back to the rootball. I had the bright idea of separating a triple sabal minor blue pot once. One actually lived, totally wasn't worth it. I've experienced them wanting to rot over winter in a pot - it's because I'm heavy handed with the watering can. I'd plant that bad boy in the spring as soon as your soil temps warm to 60F.
Are regular Sabal Minors not good with over watering? Is that only when they are in a pot? My Sabal Minor McCurtain seems like it can handle any amount of water I throw at it.

Yes it's a Monrovia. It was originally priced at $40 but I got it for 1/2 off.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:33 pm
by Cosmo
Interesting and somewhat informative about S. Minors in their native TX habitat.

http://dallaspalms.com/native_palm_groves_in_dallas.htm

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:31 pm
by cuja1
Cosmo wrote:Interesting and somewhat informative about S. Minors in their native TX habitat.

http://dallaspalms.com/native_palm_groves_in_dallas.htm
Thanks for the info. You'd think Sabal Minors would be used more in Dallas.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:25 am
by KrisK
They'll be fine in standing water when in the ground. I've overwatered in pots and killed them.

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:10 am
by TerdalFarm
I like Kris' idea to plant it in the Spring. IMO, these are tough palms. I've seen them in habitat here in Oklahoma. Most grow along stream banks where they get flooded a few times per year. But, I've also found wild ones on high, rocky ground.

Yours looks great, and $20 was a super price. Buy a bunch if you see them for that again. I like them as mass plantings. --Erik