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Hey guys,....if palms are properly winterized than they should do fine here in colder climates. Here are a couple of things,..the first two years of planting a palm in a northern hemisphere you really need to establish the tree, the tree needs iron, potassium, magnesium, and mahesium along with nitrogen and proper amounts of water,...not too much but not too little either. I dont advise getting any tree under 8 foot unless its a needle palm...a small windmill is only cold hardy to about 20 degrees if it doesnt have any protection,....one more thing,...try to plant your palms before September so the root system can establish,....once the ground temperature gets pretty cold, palms go into a hibernation mode where they don't grow much,...NashvillePalms.com owner

Hi, welcome to this forum....does the Canariensis is planted in Nashville ? Very beautifull....

Ben

Hi Ben.... Against all rules of planting a less cold hardy palm for the Nashville Tn area it is here in Nashville doing just fine with proper winterization.

Hey Nashville, welcome! I agree, anything under 8' requires special needs for sure. I have a similar size Pindo and Palmetto that I protect.
How do you go about protecting a CIDP, as they less tolerant to cold and wet cold? cheers

We wrap the palm with a heated chord, than burlap the palm, last we just cover it with plastic. The palm is completely covered when we are finished. Also, we add mulch around 4 inches around the base of the tree... You can also add a plastic or a tarp so during the winter the roots don't freeze.

Cool!

Yes, welcome aboard PN...great photos.

and mahesium

Manganese is important for palms.
I'm sure that's what you meant to include.

Barb

Any pic of that CIDP protected?

I would agree it would be great to start out with a palm at least 8ft but I don't think most can afford that since if your bitten by the palm bug....have to have MANY! lol

sashaeffer wrote:Any pic of that CIDP protected?

I would agree it would be great to start out with a palm at least 8ft but I don't think most can afford that since if your bitten by the palm bug....have to have MANY! lol

So true Scott, those CIDP's sure aren't cheap. Not sure if I would invest in experimenting with that one. My large Pindo was pricey enough and a pretty good knock-off of a CIDP.

905palms wrote:

sashaeffer wrote:Any pic of that CIDP protected?

I would agree it would be great to start out with a palm at least 8ft but I don't think most can afford that since if your bitten by the palm bug....have to have MANY! lol

So true Scott, those CIDP's sure aren't cheap. Not sure if I would invest in experimenting with that one. My large Pindo was pricey enough and a pretty good knock-off of a CIDP.

I was lucky enough last spring to drive to San Diego and bought a 11 gallon CIDP and 11 gallon Silver date palm. CIDP at Lowes out there was just $39 and bought two "small" ones for $9.99 each. They really are good growers and love water. I plan on planting one of the small ones this spring. The large one would be a real bear to plant with it's dagger like thorns it has.

NP,

A picture of the protection would be great to see on a palm that big. There is a good sized CIDP in one of Vancouver's eastern suburbs that I drive past occasionally. It has a decent sized box built around it from Coreplast. Thing must be 15' tall, but the one in your picture looks even bigger. What a beast to protect with all those sharp spines.


Hi 905...Don't think we have seen how you protected that awesome Butia you planted last year. That must take some pretty impressive protection, love to see a pic of yours as well.

Brooklands wrote:NP,

A picture of the protection would be great to see on a palm that big. There is a good sized CIDP in one of Vancouver's eastern suburbs that I drive past occasionally. It has a decent sized box built around it from Coreplast. Thing must be 15' tall, but the one in your picture looks even bigger. What a beast to protect with all those sharp spines.


Hi 905...Don't think we have seen how you protected that awesome Butia you planted last year. That must take some pretty impressive protection, love to see a pic of yours as well.

Thanks, Yep challenging for sure with the heights to climb. Pics to follow..

Here's a couple of protection pics...

Awesome palm can't wait till mine is that size,but I am scared of heights, But my CIDP will either have to be planted or root pruned. It's starting to deform a 24" pot. I would rather purchase another pindo to replace the one I lost last yr.

Wow 905, that's truly a labour of love...very impressive.

Brooklands wrote:Wow 905, that's truly a labour of love...very impressive.

Thanks, at least I don't have to deal with the spines of a CIDP like Nashville does.
How fast do the root grow, even in a pot?

I potted a 3 gallon 2 yrs ago into a 24" pot and now the pot is warped. If it was glass it would have busted. I had a pindo in this same pot for 4 yrs and it never did this. The pindo was a 7 gallon when I potted it. The biggest difference the pindo palm grows above the soil and the CIDP doesn't seem to.

CIDP roots are incredible, both in volume and size/length of "fleshy" white roots.
My old CIDP has been root-pruned, I think, twice with about 50% of roots torn off when the tractor strap broke from the weight.
Recovered nicely both times.

The last time was last summer when I planted it out.
Again, half the roots were cut off.

Barb

How's the palm now Barb? Once planted, did it grow quicker than in a pot?

How's the palm now Barb? Once planted, did it grow quicker than in a pot?

Planted it last summer as it was going into serious decline from having been in pots for eons.
It put out 3 or 4 new--but small--spears by the end of summer.
Didn't do bugger all until then.
Probably recovering from its (again) loss of 50% roots.

I'm hoping for massive growth this summer.
If it survived winter in its plastic teepee.

There's so much snow on the teepee plastic, gotta wait until it's melted to even peek under an edge.

Barb

Thanks Barb, the snow will melt soon enough, and I'm sure you'll be happy. I'm only asking because I might plant mine in a garbage can like you did... once it grows lol
But I'll take your advice and keep it in a pot for a few years..

Impressive Nashville, and welcome! 905, that's some bigtime protection there

There are lots of pot sizes before you get to a garbage can

My CIDP is in the hottest windiest spot on my south-facing acreage.
It loves to bake in the heat and wind, with lots of water.

Barb

Barb, I will be as anxious as you are this spring when you uncover your CIDP. I plan on planting one of mine this spring but want to learn what I can from your experience.

Pics..as soon as you can this spring.

Thanks Scott.

Think I've totally screwed up posting topics (again) .
Can't remember if you've seen these pics I just posted today on John's topic: http://www.palmsnorth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5728

I had better not get my hopes up too high.
There's a 50/50 chance the CIDP is toast.

Barb