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Trachy Dead or alive?

Post by Tarkus » Mon May 19, 2014 9:21 am

Hello all. First let me start with saying that I don't have any pics yet but wanted to get some opinions anyway, if possible. I have a young Trachy that's now been through 3 winters (2 easy, 1 brutal) and it looked as if it came through ok. Then recently I noticed the newest spear, which was starting to spread out into a frond, was completely brown. It looked as if was dead but yet it was still getting taller. I tried to pull it and it was intact however, again, it was brown. Then I noticed as it got slightly taller, the very bottom of it at the base looked like it was moldy. I then pulled it again and it broke. the spear did not pull from inside but yet it just broke from a straight pull. no bending or twisting at all on my part. It was as if something had destroyed that one spear/frond. Is this a situation that maybe a fungicide would help with. Remember, the spear didn't actually pull out and all other fronds look relatively healthy (considering the winter they just endured).
thanks in advance for any help and again, sorry for no pics as I know they would help greatly.



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Post by lucky1 » Mon May 19, 2014 10:20 am

Sounds like fungicide should've been applied earlier.
Mold in the spear can spell the end.
Health of oldest fronds has nothing to do with palm living or dying if the spear is moldy.

"hardyjim" has several posts with good photos on trunk cutting when a spear has rotted.
Sorry but can't find them right now.

you're right, photos would help.

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Post by Tarkus » Mon May 19, 2014 11:04 am

Thanks so much for the reply. Unfortunately that's what I was afraid of.
So I'm guessing then that it's too late at this point? Also, as I do have 3 other "healthy" Windmills in the ground, is there any particular type of fungicide you would recommend?
also for some other info, I do keep the top of my winter protection open most of the time and so I didn't think this would be an issue.

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Post by lucky1 » Mon May 19, 2014 11:13 am

It's not over for your palm (if you can find hardyjim's post on spear-cutting/trunk-cutting below the damage to get to healthy tissue).
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Post by Tarkus » Mon May 19, 2014 12:19 pm

I'll definitely look into that. I would hate to see this little tree meet it's end from some fungus.
Thanks again.

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Update (& then some)

Post by Tarkus » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:19 am

For anyone interested, the Trachy in the above posts has come through this year with flying colors to say the least. After early spring it looked like it was doomed and as of now it's still growing. Last count is 10 new fronds this year. So of course I'm happy about that and have since planted 2 additional Trachy's (with about a 1' trunk from Home Depot). So now I have a couple of questions if anyone out there with more knowledge than me can give some advice.
I now have 4 Trachys and while the original two will be protected as usual, I need to try something different on the other two. I would like to tightly wrap them in burlap while providing a 4" or so layer of mulch around the base. So my first question is, would this be enough protection? My other two are in an insulated tomato cage with C9 lights. I would also apply a small amount of fungicide. So my second question and one which is also in another post, which fungicide (if any) is recommended and should it simply be applied before they get wrapped?
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Post by TerdalFarm » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:31 pm

Thanks for the update!

That is great news.

I think with zone 7a, you should be fine with the protection you described. I'd spray fungicide before wrapping. I use a copper-based one, but figure all are good. (Others here know more.)

I suggest having a couple plastic garbage cans in the garage. If you get another "polar vortex" thing, put used plastic milk jugs, 2 litre pop bottles etc with hot tap water around the trunk, then put a plastic trash can over for the duration. Easy, not expensive.

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Post by Tarkus » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:02 pm

Thanks for the reply and yeah, that whole polar vortex thing really scares me. Not just for the palms but I just can't stand the cold, but that's another story.
Anyway, lets hope it doesn't return with any force this year and if so, i'll at least be prepared.
Thanks again.

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Post by hardyjim » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:49 am

Sometimes when growth stops,the tissue that is
locked in place for a while can get moldy,the mold/fungus eats
through the spear and severs it-usually the spear will grow out of it-
you see this a lot when cold and moisture are present when damage appears
but the rest of the time the plant is dry enough that fungus growth does not spread.
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Post by Tarkus » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:50 pm

"the mold/fungus eats
through the spear and severs it-usually the spear will grow out of it-"

Exactly what happened to me. Fortunately the spear outgrew the mold and it just [u]broke[/u] off with no spear pull. The way this thing grew this season, I can't wait until next year!

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