Is it safe

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:32 pm

I have a Trachycarpus I put in the ground this time last year. I'm in zone 6a in pennsylvania. The weather is not going to be great here does anyone think its ok to uncover my windmill.

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:40 pm

My windmill has been uncovered for a month and a half. It does however, as a 6ish year old plant, have nine inches of trunk. How big is yours?
Welcome to palmsnorth Tony!

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:50 pm

My Windmill has about 4 foot trunk. I put it in the ground 3-31-12. I kept it around 30f all winter with one night it got 18 in the huts. Our lows coming up are around the 30f to 20f. Just want to know if its safe to uncover. I got a pindo also but I'm going to leave that hut on for now.

Beny · Post by **Beny** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:04 pm

Hi Tony,
Don t worry, i uncovered few Windmill in the past days, and i still have a feet of snow in my yard. By experience, i tried this winter my Trachy at -16c (3-4F). And it has had no problem, so at 20F, no problem at all. And for the Butia(pindo), last year i got one outside without any protection at -10c (10F) and everything was ok. These palms are pretty tough

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Ben

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:35 pm

Thanks for the info I'm going to take it off tomorrow ill try to post some pics thanks again.

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:29 am

Very good Tony, no need to lose sleep over the temps we will see from now forward.

InsanePalmNinja · Post by **InsanePalmNinja** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:13 am

I have ask same question as well, Is it safe. Mother nature likes to troll us. O I forgot its the midwest. What am I thinking.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:42 am

Hi Tony, welcome aboard.
Look forward to seeing your photos.

If your long range weather shows nothing much below freezing, you're late opening the palm protection

Barb

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:46 pm

Just took off the protection. Looking good.
Also can I cut off the lower leafs or is that a bad idea. And I got palm spikes are they ok to use for fertlizer next month

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:12 pm

your Trachy looks mint!

Nice job. All we need now is some heat.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:17 pm

Holy cow, Tony, fabulous job, fabulous palm.

Were you lying down when you posted the pics?

Generally lower leaves are cut off as they go brown (until then the palm continues to take nutrition from them).
But we've all cut off lower leaves that were green.
Certainly doesn't harm the palm...and we can get our lawn chair under it sooner.

Palm spikes are better than, say, some of the best selling "general" fertilizers (in a green/yellow bucket). Ahem.
But the best fertilizers for palms are those with 3-1-4 NPK ratio plus minors.
Palms are very fussy and particulary need Manganese.

There's a saying: cheap fertilizers aren't good, and good fertilizers aren't cheap.

Barb

andym · Post by **andym** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:48 am

That's a great palm and I hope it gives you years of pleasure

I'm always amazed at the lengths you guy's an gals go to to protect your palms Tony's protection is certainly first rate
Barb.... is it magnesium that plants require to stop yellowing.? Even on new growth mine is yellowing at the tips
The camera shots were probably taken with the camera in an upright position and resized to fit the forum space... a problem I too frequently have as well.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:46 am

magnesium that plants require to stop yellowing.?

Magnesium (mg) always provides a quick green-up, I believe, and many people use epsom salts to provide that (but salts aren't good long-term).
But fertilizers without Manganese (mn) are definitely not palm-specific, and generally lack the other minors that are important.

Yellow tips can also result from too much/too little water.

Here's Florida fertilizer research update.
http://hillsborough.ifas.ufl.edu/prohor ... lmFert.PDF

Kidding about the camera shot

Most photo hosts allow various sizes, as well as flipping to vertical.
Not a big deal, I'll just put my lounger next to computer.

Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:54 am

Hi Tony. I'm impressed that it looks so great and you do so well up there in Jim Thorpe PA. Great work!

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:31 am

Hi Tonny, your palm looks Wagnerianus to me, doesn't it? Honorable experts, please, advice.

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:33 pm

Thank you all. I am sorry about the pics. I am going to uncover my pindo in two weeks or so I will post pics ill see if I can get them to go the right way.

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:45 pm

came out really really well. did you buy it that big or have you grown it for awhile? does look a bit like a waggie to me as well..although it seems when waggies get that big they look like trash with small crowns and large trunks but that one looks fantastic.

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:50 pm

Very nice looking palm. You did a really good job protecting it. I couldnt imagine the temps dropping low enough to hurt it now.

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:35 pm

miketropic wrote:came out really really well. did you buy it that big or have you grown it for awhile? does look a bit like a waggie to me as well..although it seems when waggies get that big they look like trash with small crowns and large trunks but that one looks fantastic.

I got it about that size it is right now from chilly palm. I put in the ground 4-5-12. There was nothing for about 3 months probably the transfer shock. But the end of July to October there was some nice growth. I hated to wrap it up at the end of November. But uncovered yesterday and wow it looks great.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:11 pm

I don't see any Waggie genes...but?

So it's been in the ground about a year, Tony.
Great job of winter protection.
Don't change a thing for 2013/2014.

Just ribbing you about the sideways photos, Tony.
Better sideways than no photo at all.

Look forward to seeing the Pindo...when the time is right.
Barb

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:57 pm

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. But what can I do about yellow tips on my windmill. Can I cut the tip off because I know Once there yellow they stay yellow. It's on almost all of my leafs. Thanks

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:16 pm

Yeah, folks cut yellow tips off, but all it does is improve appearance.
Yellow tips can indicate too much--as well as too little--water.
So it's pretty common, but not a big deal in my opinion.

Barb

InsanePalmNinja · Post by **InsanePalmNinja** » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:24 am

Tonyusc wrote:Sorry if this is in the wrong place. But what can I do about yellow tips on my windmill. Can I cut the tip off because I know Once there yellow they stay yellow. It's on almost all of my leafs. Thanks

fertilize it if you can it worked for me. I used 15-5-15 make sure it has magnesium.

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:05 am

fertilize it if you can it worked for me. I used 15-5-15 make sure it has magnesium.[/quote]

Is it to early for me to fertilize here in pennsylvania.

InsanePalmNinja · Post by **InsanePalmNinja** » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:45 am

Yea I probloy should of wanted as well.

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:55 am

With the warm weather coming does anyone think its ok to uncover my pindo. I'm here in zone 5

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:12 am

Tony, I think you need to look at your 2 week f/cast for night time lows to guide your decision.

Or maybe anyone closer to you can advise.

Barb

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:22 am

The lowest I see for the 15 forecast is mid 30's night time lowes

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:21 pm

Pindos are supposedly among the hardiest of feather-leafed palms.
Just guessing, but mid-30's is too cool unless it's been in the ground for many years.

But it depends on your protection...if it's getting moldy from lack of ventilation, uncovering now would help it.

Sorry, can't be more help.
Barb

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:48 pm

It's been over 90-100f inside the hut even with me venting it during the day but with the sun beating on the hut. I'm going to take a chance and uncover it on Saturday.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:57 pm

90-100f inside the hut

Wow, plenty warm enough.
And if your 30s at night are gone (for good), now's the time.

Barb

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Sun May 12, 2013 8:59 pm

Need some help. I uncovered my pindo last month it was green but then The bottom are all turning yellow and brown. I cut the lowest ones off about a week ago now the next level of leaves are turning yellow. There is new growth coming out but real slow and not as green as it should be almost yellow looking. I put Epsom salt on plus fertlizer. What am I doing wrong.

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Mon May 13, 2013 12:32 am

Another thing can anyone tell if this is male or female.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon May 13, 2013 12:51 pm

Got a pic of the yellowing pindo?

And the next Q, the greenish look of the inflorescence makes me guess male.
At least on my Trachy which is all I know.

But should wait until they're fully open.

Barb

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Mon May 13, 2013 1:57 pm

Let me know what ya think. It's worse in person. Black dots and brown tips almost 2 inches down the leaf.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon May 13, 2013 2:04 pm

Looks fine to me, Tony.
Maybe it's just settling in.

When palm leaves naturally yellow, it's always the oldest ones.

Barb

Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:40 pm

Hello all hope all your palms are well. I need some help with mine. My windmill is looking great and flowered this year ill post the pics. When do I cut off the flowering part look at the pic and let me know. Also my pindo looks sick and help on this would be great. The one pic of the pindo is in the Beginning of this season. You can tell the difference

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Tonyusc · Post by **Tonyusc** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:46 pm

Pindo pics

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:50 am

Tony,

Windmill looks fabulous.
I haven't cut off my LAST YEAR'S inflorescences yet

As for the Pindo, I didn't think there was anything wrong with it when you first showed pics.
As long as the oldest fronds are the only ones yellowing, that's a normal process.

Maybe others have a different opinion but I think it's fine.

Barb

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:56 pm

Great looking palms from here.

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