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CIDP showing signs of better cold hardiness over W. robusta

That's good to know.
Not many examples of that.
But it looks like he's pruning them with a meat cleaver

Barb

lucky1 wrote:

CIDP showing signs of better cold hardiness over W. robusta

But it looks like he's pruning them with a meat cleaver

Barb

I know, looks bad, but I think they had too sense all the old leaves were dead.

Here is an example of W. filifera doing good and Med fan looking very sad.
El Paso july/2011
https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.783998,- ... -2.86&z=14

Interesting pictures. I'm curious if you have visited these in person before or if you are just typing in random addresses searching for plants?

I did not even recognize the turnks on the Champerops at first in the last picture. It apears to have a few basal suckers sprouting at least.

nice find in El Paso Aaron..................right down the street there were a few CIDPs recovering.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.785238,- ... ,2.19&z=14

Jubaea wrote:Interesting pictures. I'm curious if you have visited these in person before or if you are just typing in random addresses searching for plants?

I did not even recognize the turnks on the Champerops at first in the last picture. It apears to have a few basal suckers sprouting at least.

I've never been to El Paso, we just use our mouse to scroll down the streets and look for plants that are of interest and lived through the 2011 "big freeze"

Champerops "med fan" in the pic may even have some that might recover from the crown. A bit of green pushing up from the one on the left.

TimMAz6 wrote:nice find in El Paso Aaron..................right down the street there were a few CIDPs recovering.

Nice! I don't think I have found a dead CIDP in El Paso yet. Some dead Robustas and almost dead med fans. Makes me question what palms are hardy and what's not.

Tim, look at the size of these Yucca faxoniana. Look how much bigger they are than the entrance to the building.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.760933,- ... -0.35&z=18

A must see! Come one come all! Agave as big as a house! You wont belive your eyes!
Well this house.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.449042,- ... 13.63&z=19

Could this be the highest mountain palm in the US? other than Cali? I bet over a mile high.
Bisbee AZ.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.445667,- ... 13.12&z=19

Hi Aaron,

that Y. fax is huge.............if we didn't see the door I wouldn't have thought it was that tall.

that Agave is HUGE too...........is that a matchbox car?

that Washy is massive..........being high in elevation at that location may be better than the valleys since cold air won't pool.

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Aaron,

being high in elevation at that location may be better than the valleys since cold air won't pool.

Yip...I was thinking the same thing! Looks like it did better than the big ones down in the canyon floor.
Some places that winter reported lows as cold -10F I was watching the weather reports that day on weatherunderground.

Agave as big as a house!

Good one, Aaron.
That agave is a stunner.

re Bisbee palm.
How'd I miss that in my "travels"?
That guy has some age.
Agree the slopes are better than valley bottom where frost settles.

Barb

lucky1 wrote: re Bisbee palm.
How'd I miss that in my "travels"?
That guy has some age.

Barb

I know what you mean, I found a date palm there I never seen before.

Sierra vista, AZ
Brahea armata
https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.538475,- ... .4,,1,3.76

Nice to see one, Aaron!

Same neighbourhood, what's this?: https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.538269,- ... ,4.19&z=19

Barb

Looks like a dasylirion species, probably wheeleri?

I think some of the dasylirions I seen with winter burn were other than wheeleri, I think they were Dasylirion longissimum.

Ah...a dasy.
Surprised it's so stubby, without a trunk.

Barb

tons of burn't palms and a barrel cactus in this one..........

https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.530064,- ... ,3.21&z=19

I hope the next time I get down there I can get seed off one of these awesome agave.

May not be this year.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.542488,- ... ,1.87&z=19

DesertZone wrote:2011 map view of El Paso,
Tim what yucca is this? (could be schottii?) So far this street is the only one I found with the 2011 date.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=31.855895,-1 ... .1,,1,0.12

That Yucca sure looks like a Y. thompsoniana. Beautiful example, much bigger than others I have seen online:

Now I see what my posting the incorrect link does to this posting, Aaron.
Totally screws up the loading speed.

This is one of those rare instances you don't want to EMBED the picture.
Sorry.

Barb

lucky1 wrote:Now I see what my posting the incorrect link does to this posting, Aaron.
Totally screws up the loading speed.

This is one of those rare instances you don't want to EMBED the picture.
Sorry.

Barb

That's OK.

Sierra Vista AZ
one Washy barely OK

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Bisbee+AZ& ... 5,,0,-9.14

Henderson NV, May 2011
Washingtonia

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Henderson+ ... 33,,0,1.19

lucky1 wrote:Henderson NV, May 2011
Washingtonia

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Henderson+ ... 33,,0,1.19

Interesting how some burnt more than the others.

Recovering Washy Sierra Vista AZ

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=bisbee+AZ& ... 62,,1,0.87

more in same area:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=bisbee+AZ& ... 16,,0,1.57

I like this street...wide open, large lots, homes set back, even some blue upright junipers here and there.

lucky1 wrote:Recovering Washy Sierra Vista AZ

I like this street...wide open, large lots, homes set back, even some blue upright junipers here and there.

I liked that row of med-fans.

I also like that kind of nieghborhood, almost like being in the wild but cleaner.

Just down the street an unkown yucca.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=bisbee+AZ& ... -1.55&z=19

They should have waited, I bet these palms would have been ok.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=bisbee+AZ& ... ,6.32&z=13

Aaron, you're gonna laugh, but I saw that "Just down the street an unkown yucca. "
And every time I tried to zoom in to get the link for it, I ended up behind the deciduous tree and couldn't get closer to the right....AAAARGH!
What do you think that is?
Really puzzled...

should have waited, I bet these palms would have been ok

Probably had been there since the community got developed.
Sad indeed to cut down such noble beasts.

lucky1 wrote:Aaron, you're gonna laugh, but I saw that "Just down the street an unkown yucca. "
And every time I tried to zoom in to get the link for it, I ended up behind the deciduous tree and couldn't get closer to the right....AAAARGH!
What do you think that is?
Really puzzled...

I tried and tried to get a better angle for the pic also.

I think it might be a Yucca filifera?

Hmmm...a y.filifera.
It just looks so...well, weird...

Oh, and this pic (albeit in 2008 from before the killer cold) shows rare landscaping in the center.
Wonder if they're still alive.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... 5,,0,-4.02

Barb

lucky1 wrote: Oh, and this pic (albeit in 2008 from before the killer cold) shows rare landscaping in the center.
Wonder if they're still alive.

Barb

I thought that looked like Cali.
I would bet they are all doing fine, the queen palms in Vegas lived and they got much colder than Blythe.

Attractive form of landscaping, in a center island.
Doubt any neighbor would care for them though, as they would if they were sidewalk planted.

thought that looked like Cali.

From the look of the hills?
It looked different to me too, but didn't realize it, or even why.
Maybe the light is different too?

Zooming in on some of those satellite shots, it's really amazing where people decided to settle -- really anywhere, probably where there was/is a creek originally.
And the google camera has many areas they haven't travelled yet.

Frustrating when the "little man" just goes home again.

Sad Phoenix:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... 3,,1,-2.49

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... 41,,1,7.21

Both are alive:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... ,,0,-17.27

Great looking new area:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... 7,,0,13.16

Saving the best for last, here's a nice Dasylirion...and the 3 dogs watching the camera van
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... 9,,0,-4.57

Barb

oops, forgot this gorgeous yucca:
Either it was protected for that bad winter or it's new...sibling to the left of driveway looks good too.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... 6,,0,20.23

look at this undamaged yucca in the wild

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... 2,,2,12.02

lucky1 wrote:

thought that looked like Cali.

From the look of the hills?
It looked different to me too, but didn't realize it, or even why.
Maybe the light is different too?

Frustrating when the "little man" just goes home again.

The first thing was the grass in the middle of the road, that would be very rare in az. There are a few other things, grass in the yards is much more common in Cali, the wooden fences are rare in AZ.
There is a place in AZ that looks like this, Pheonix, but I don't think they would have grass in the middle of the roads.

Me too. I hate when that guys heads home.

That place with the dogs was nice, may have been the best entertainment they seen in months.

lucky1 wrote:oops, forgot this gorgeous yucca:
Either it was protected for that bad winter or it's new...sibling to the left of driveway looks good too.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=arizona&hl ... 6,,0,20.23

That is a Yucca elata, they will grow in your yard without protection. Well, when they get a little size to them.

They can take lots of cold and can grow to over 10 feet tall.
This was after the freeze, looks good.