Please help me identify this cold hardy tree

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:40 pm

Came across this tree in the city the other day. Really large, all leaves still intact and healthy even in the dead of winter???????? I was thinking some kind of magnolia, but am not sure????
Thanks
Mike

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:15 pm

wow great find Mike.............sure looks like Loquat. What town is that in? I want a cutting!!!!!!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:46 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:wow great find Mike.............sure looks like Loquat. What town is that in? I want a cutting!!!!!!

Found it driving on way to work over in in Philly...AMazing!!

andym · Post by **andym** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:25 pm

Yes that's Eriobotrya Japonica the loquat tree. Mega powerful scent on flowers but our summers are not warm enough to get flowering let alone the fruit

Don't seem to worry about the cold that much either

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:25 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:wow great find Mike.............sure looks like Loquat. What town is that in? I want a cutting!!!!!!

Thanks for IDing for mw; i have to go talk to the owners and get some, maybe in spring? i can send you some if I do....

andym · Post by **andym** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:36 pm

Just to say there's a cross out also called Eriobotrya Diflexa which is a cross between Eriobotrya and Photinia. Can you grow Photinia over yonder???

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:06 pm

andym wrote:Yes that's Eriobotrya Japonica the loquat tree. Mega powerful scent on flowers but our summers are not warm enough to get flowering let alone the fruit
Don't seem to worry about the cold that much either

Thnks, Andy. yes, the flowers were still on the tree, I guess our cold snap killed the possibility for fruit in spring. We do get really hot summers here, basically the lowest we get is 70 F for 3 months at night and in the 90's for 3 months in the days.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:18 pm

Great looking tree for this time of year, Mike.

We might all want one...

Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:23 pm

Hi Mike,

I got a couple small 1.5 foot tall seedlings...........but the one you found it the largest, most northern specimen I've seen. Great find. I did forget to bring in my seedlings after being below freezing to 1.5 days straight and they were fine............pots were frozen solid.

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:42 pm

lucky1 wrote:Great looking tree for this time of year, Mike.

We might all want one...

Barb

righht Barb, it is an amazing tree! I was driving down the street and totally screeched over and parked, did a few double takes and got out to touch it. The dried up flowers even still had a sweet smell to them.

It is located in a part of South Philly that is very Italian and basically every house there has a very small small yard with figs and grape (plants and vines all brought over from italy.) Even our house had a built in wine press in the basement. The first house I bouhgt in Philly was in this neighborhood. We could only speak Italian with our neighbors, and the older women on the block used to argue over who could clean their houses the best, make the best manicotti and whose figs were the most plump. I loved living there. I sold out and moved to the Jersey Burbs. I sometimes even regret it nowadays.

I rememebr seeing these trees all over in New Orleans and California, but was stumped to see it here. Especially since it gets so cold in winters.

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:46 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Mike,

I got a couple small 1.5 foot tall seedlings...........but the one you found it the largest, most northern specimen I've seen. Great find. I did forget to bring in my seedlings after being below freezing to 1.5 days straight and they were fine............pots were frozen solid.

Very cool Tim. I'm totally getting one! If I get to grab some cuttings, would they be hardier since they belong to an older tree that has been through cold winters etc...?

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:13 pm

Mike, it looks like someone just took the winter wrap OFF it.
The leaves are totally untouched by cold and even look soft, as though it grew new leaves until a month ago.

Incredible...but it's the golden thumb of the Italians for sure.
They can make rocks grow.
Yes, I can well imagine how fondly you look back on living there...great people, all about family, gardens, and caring about one another.

Having seen those trees in the south, Mike, you simply must knock on the door and ask how the tree is kept so healthy.
Be prepared to stay for 2 hours and sample his homemade wine.
He'd be so proud to explain how he keeps the tree healthy.

I love those neighborhoods!

and the people in them.

Barb

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:53 pm

That is a nice looking loquat tree.
Our first outdoor planted Loquat has been outside for two winters now. Planted about thirty one-year old seedlings out in our back garden bed... all doing alright. They do dislike winter winds and do better in part shade.

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:55 pm

Love the BLE greenleaf loquat right up against the blue atlas cedar. Just noticed that wonderful juxtaposition.

Cameron_z6a_N.S. · Post by **Cameron_z6a_N.S.** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:41 pm

Great find, Mike!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:04 am

lucky1 wrote:Mike, it looks like someone just took the winter wrap OFF it.
The leaves are totally untouched by cold and even look soft, as though it grew new leaves until a month ago.

Incredible...but it's the golden thumb of the Italians for sure.
They can make rocks grow.
Yes, I can well imagine how fondly you look back on living there...great people, all about family, gardens, and caring about one another.

Having seen those trees in the south, Mike, you simply must knock on the door and ask how the tree is kept so healthy.
Be prepared to stay for 2 hours and sample his homemade wine.
He'd be so proud to explain how he keeps the tree healthy.

I love those neighborhoods! and the people in them.

Barb

will do Barb!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:06 am

seedscanada wrote:That is a nice looking loquat tree.
Our first outdoor planted Loquat has been outside for two winters now. Planted about thirty one-year old seedlings out in our back garden bed... all doing alright. They do dislike winter winds and do better in part shade.

Great! Do you wrap them? This tree is way too big o be wrapped. I want one like that!!!!!!!

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:07 am

Hi Mike,

I've read that there are a lot of different Loquat cultivars so I can only imagine some forms will be less hardy than other forms. Your Philly specimen sure passes the test for hardiness..............if they let you take a cutting don't pass it up!

Hi Adam,

please give us an update on your Loquats................show us some photos. I'll be planting my 2 specimens outside this spring...........any tips?

andym · Post by **andym** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:34 am

sidpook wrote:
andym wrote:Yes that's Eriobotrya Japonica the loquat tree. Mega powerful scent on flowers but our summers are not warm enough to get flowering let alone the fruit
Don't seem to worry about the cold that much either

Thnks, Andy. yes, the flowers were still on the tree, I guess our cold snap killed the possibility for fruit in spring. We do get really hot summers here, basically the lowest we get is 70 F for 3 months at night and in the 90's for 3 months in the days.

Mike .... You really do know how to cheer someone up

To think that Summer over here... 70F in the daytime was something to wish for except for London of course

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:45 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Mike,

I've read that there are a lot of different Loquat cultivars so I can only imagine some forms will be less hardy than other forms. Your Philly specimen sure passes the test for hardiness..............if they let you take a cutting don't pass it up!

Hi Adam,

please give us an update on your Loquats................show us some photos. I'll be planting my 2 specimens outside this spring...........any tips?

Hey Tim. I actually don't have any of these cool trees...YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS You are about to get a shitleoad of snow; good luck!!!

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:46 am

Eriobotrya japonica are hardy here in Zagreb. Here is big one exemplar (photo: Branimir from palmapedia forum)

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:00 pm

Excellent picture!!!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:02 pm

andym wrote:
sidpook wrote:
andym wrote:Yes that's Eriobotrya Japonica the loquat tree. Mega powerful scent on flowers but our summers are not warm enough to get flowering let alone the fruit
Don't seem to worry about the cold that much either

Thnks, Andy. yes, the flowers were still on the tree, I guess our cold snap killed the possibility for fruit in spring. We do get really hot summers here, basically the lowest we get is 70 F for 3 months at night and in the 90's for 3 months in the days.
Mike .... You really do know how to cheer someone up To think that Summer over here... 70F in the daytime was something to wish for except for London of course

Summers are brutal here; high temps and oh thehumidity /dew point is insanely high!!!

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:32 pm

This is a pic of ours after its first winter, some time last summer.. More pics to come of them out there now...
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seedscanada/7884945466/" title="Lincoln-20120826-01035 by seedscanada, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8460/7884 ... 429e_z.jpg" width="480" height="640" alt="Lincoln-20120826-01035"></a>

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:53 pm

seedscanada wrote:This is a pic of ours after its first winter, some time last summer.. More pics to come of them out there now...
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seedscanada/7884945466/" title="Lincoln-20120826-01035 by seedscanada, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8460/7884 ... 429e_z.jpg" width="480" height="640" alt="Lincoln-20120826-01035"></a>

Way cool! how do you protect in winter??

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:37 pm

Grasshopper alert!
(munch, munch)

Huge leaves for such a small plant, yet wood trunk already.

Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:54 am

lucky1 wrote:Grasshopper alert!
(munch, munch)

Huge leaves for such a small plant, yet wood trunk already.

Barb

LOL, Barb.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:35 am

Great specimen Loquat Henoh. How cold is that area where the Loquat is?

Nice test Adam.............how much did it grow for you this season?

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:18 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Great specimen Loquat Henoh. How cold is that area where the Loquat is?

I think, no lower than 0F. That part of town has a good micro climate due to urban heat.

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:42 pm

We put a tomato cage around it then fabric around that. Picture from today.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seedscanada/8466475002/" title="Loquat, Eriobotrya japonica by seedscanada, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8235/8466 ... 8db4_z.jpg" width="640" height="359" alt="Loquat, Eriobotrya japonica"></a>

growth this year... not too sure a few inches, but I wasn't very nice to it. The real measure is this year.

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:58 pm

Eccellent , thanks!

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:22 pm

Nice job Adam..........I can't wait to get mine into the ground.

Henoh........0F is still cold! It's nice to hear the Loquats are hardy.

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