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Phoenix Canariensis or Dactylifera

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:23 pm
by mpertz
Hi Everyone.

Can somebody tell me if this palm is Canariensis or Dactylifera. The leaves look like they are of a canariensis, but the trunk is confusing me. My mother in law has it for at least 8 yrs (this is since I know the palm in her house) in it was kept in house all of this years. It has around 5 ft. without the pot.

Thanks,
Madi


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P.S. How can add images that can be seen direct in the post, not by accessing "postimage" address?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:32 pm
by lucky1
Hi Madi, welcome to the forum.

The palm`s base and frond look a little like my Phoenix canariensis, but my really young P. dactylifera is too young to have formed the webbing.
Maybe someone else here can help narrow it down.

And to post pics, you don`t have to use the Img button above

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Give it a try...and see what works.

Hoping to hear more about your zone and the palms that grow there!

Barb

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:47 pm
by lucky1

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:08 am
by mpertz
Hoping to hear more about your zone and the palms that grow there!

Barb[/quote]

So, I'm from Oradea, Romania. My area where I live, I would say it is zone 7a. There is not a rule how the winters are. Some years we get not more than 5-6 days of snow, with degrees from 5 to 35F, but 5F not that often. Maybe one or two days. Anyways, what has happened the last winter, was really harsh! We've had 2 or 3 days with -4F during the night and not more than 20F during the day. And to be honest, I haven't seen something like this in the last 20 years!!! Summers are very hot, the whole last week and this week we had 90-100F and we are in June and the summer is still ahead.
I have started with the "exotics" only 2 years ago with a Phoenix canariensis seed that i brought Greece...just to give it a try, and I ended up with 12 CIDPS, 2 waggies, 1 med fan palm, 5 washingtonia filifera (+11 that just germinated), 2 sabals minor (that are giving me headache), 4 musa sikimmensis, few musa cavendish and basjoo, brugmansia, oleanders, and the list can go on.
For of the moment I keep them in pots, and repot them every year in bigger pots couse they grow like crazy. I will start building my house only next year, till then I keep them at my parent's house.
This year I put one seedling of CIDP and one of sabal in the ground to see what will happen in the winter, of course - giving them some protection. Last year I put one med fan palm (aprox 2ft) with some passive protection thinking that the winter will be the same like in the last years, but surprise! When outside were 10F, it still looked good, but I "woke" up late when it is was -4F. All the fronds were frozen and I had to cut it to the ground. When the spring came, it started to put new leaves but last month we've had a lot of rain and all the new leaves started to rot. Now I have to wait again and see what's happening.
Well, this is for the moment :)

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:00 am
by bananieru
Hi Madi, welcome to the forum (bine ai venit pe forum :-) ). I remember being in Baile Felix in a winter training camp 25 years ago, when the temperature was -30C. I remember those thermal water springs.

Tavi

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:49 pm
by lucky1
Madi, thanks for that info about your area; very interesting to learn that.
Zone 7a is wonderful for what you're doing.
Other European members have mentioned how cold last winter was.
Let's hope you don't have another winter like that for 20 more years. :D

You have some wonderful palm species.

How interesting that your med fan palm, after being frozen and cut to the ground, sprouted new leaves.
Too bad the new leaves rotted, but maybe it will keep producing leaves with your heat.

Look forward to seeing more...let me know if the pic embedding instructions don't work for you.

Barb

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:52 pm
by mpertz
bananieru wrote:Hi Madi, welcome to the forum (bine ai venit pe forum :-) ). I remember being in Baile Felix in a winter training camp 25 years ago, when the temperature was -30C. I remember those thermal water springs.

Tavi
Hey Tavi!
Yeah, Baile Felix is(are) a beautiful place, I've been there last night :)
Well, I don't want to contradict you, but I don't recall being so cold in this area! I mean I haven't seen (and felt) -30C! My mother worked there and also she doesn't remember of such a cold time...