Dasylirion wheeleri

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:08 am

Fast poppers...this after 8 days.
Sorry about fuzzy pic...growing too fast

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/southslope/6358733719/" title="DSC05107 by edible_plum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6035/635 ... fdfc_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="DSC05107"></a>

Considering I wanted ONE, anybody else want one or two this spring?
Here's mature pics:

http://ag.arizona.edu/pima/gardening/ar ... eleri.html

Despite what the site says, seeds do NOT need to be scarified.

Barb

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:11 am

Thanks to Aaron I have some of those seeds. It seems I have to start with germination...

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:21 am

Igor, glad you got some of Aaron's seeds too.

These were some of the easiest seeds I've ever tried...4 days in a warm room.
Mine are in the warm basement, near woodstove.
Warm water spray twice a day to soften the seed coat worked well.

I've got the "red/blue light" box suspended a few inches above them.

Barb

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:25 am

Believe or not, I have the same conditions for my future seedlings. Look at this beauty - I've never expected seeing the Water hyacinth blooming in November!

Okanagan desert-palms · Post by **Okanagan desert-palms** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:50 pm

Barb they look great congrats. My two cents. The led light you are using tends to make plants stretch to the light. You might want to add a small fan to strengthen the trunks. I`ll give Aarons seeds another try. Did you soak them before or just sprayed them to have them pop?

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:26 pm

igor.glukhovtsev wrote:Believe or not, I have the same conditions for my future seedlings. Look at this beauty - I've never expected seeing the Water hyacinth blooming in November!

Very nice!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:44 pm

Igor,

Water hyacinth blooming in November

That is gorgeous, Igor.
I had water hyacinths in my fish pond, never saw a flower.
Maybe the fish ate them overnight.

Did you soak them before or just sprayed them to have them pop?

No scarification.
No soaking at all, just dropped them ONTO soil, pressed only hard enough to make contact with soil (didn't cover them with soil).
Mist with warm water 2x a day, cover with a plastic bag so seeds don't dry out.
Once they pop, bag comes off.

Re LED light making plants stretch...so what do I replace the light with?
Just a CFL?
Or maybe we'll get a trunk sooner with LEDs

Sheesh...if everyone has Aaron's sotol seeds, what the (!@#$%^&*%$%) am I going to do with all these?

Barb

Okanagan desert-palms · Post by **Okanagan desert-palms** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:15 pm

Barb you don`t have to replace the LED light. The light should be about 2 ft. above the seedlings. The small desk fan will help the trunks not become "leggy" and weak.

John

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:19 pm

OK John.
Will do, thanks.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:57 pm

cool Barb! I've killed all the Dasylirion I've tried.....and all in their first winter. seems like they don't like cold + moisture. Keep the winter rain/snow off them!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:14 pm

I've killed all the Dasylirion I've tried

Could it be that they should be planted out when they're older?
say, 2 or 3 year old plants?

Yes, apparently moisture is lethal, other than sparse summer rains.
Some websites say young plants respond well to quite a bit of water (first few years anyway).

I'll find a way of getting some to you next year, Tim.

Would 20 or 30 be enough?

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:15 pm

I still have some seed Tim if you want some?

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:11 am

Hey Barb,

I started with Dasylirion wheeleri seeds from the begining of December.
Now, I've got something like this in picture below - and I don't know is it a Dasylirion?
Can you help me?

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:57 am

Godfryd,

Yes, that looks like what mine did!
But your photo is better.

Barb

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:18 am

Big Thanks Barb!

So I'm going to be happy now! Cool, my first Dasylirion

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:33 am

How many seeds did you plant, Godfryd?

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:23 am

5 seeds

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:51 am

Mine are very weak looking.
Since my weather is mild and sunny, I've put the community pot outside again.

Good luck with your Dasylirion, Godfryd.

Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:08 pm

I've killed Dasylirion small and large. Here's a 10 gallon one that died in December with a low of only in the teens. I guess it didn't like the snow!

2003 photos
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Here's a D. wheeleri I picked up in Tucson, AZ as a 5 gallon. It died first winter.
<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 200457.jpg>

Others:
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They seem to die early in my climate. Not even worth another try in my opinion unless you keep moisture off them.....we get 10cm every month.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:36 pm

Oh how sad Tim to lose them, especially as they get bigger.
Such magnificent speciments.

Look at the leaf-hooks in that 3rd pic

Ouch!

Tim, I've gotta say it again....I love the snow tunnels you end up digging to your plants.
I laugh every time, and think back to the 2-inch high Christmas light tunnel in the snow between house and plants.

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:55 am

Perhaps on Monday I'm gonna buy a quite mature specimen of D.wheeleri for 150 $. Unlikely if I would leave it for winter outside but the plant itself looks very unusual. What a bonus!

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:57 am

Hi Barb,

I don't have the 'snow tunnel' problem this winter......NO SNOW. We only had 2" so far this season......it's been warm.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... b167-1.jpg>

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:59 pm

That's so sad - Dasylyrion won't survive in our 6 USDA zone. Fine that you tried. Thx.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:35 pm

That's so sad - Dasylyrion won't survive in our 6 USDA

yes it sure as heck is!

Igor, that must be a beautiful specimen you're buying...a good size?

Tim, yes, that's the pic that always gets me roaring with laughter.
Thanks for posting it again.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:23 pm

Godfryd wrote:That's so sad - Dasylyrion won't survive in our 6 USDA zone. Fine that you tried. Thx.

Cheap enough to try from seed. I have some I can send for free.

PS. Keep plants high and dry and you might have good luck? I tried many Yucca brevifolias before I found a few that lived.

Godfryd · Post by **Godfryd** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:25 pm

Thanks Aaron, I will be remember your offer

As far I have one Dasylirion from the seed - it started to grow some weeks ago (I put the photos in this topic) so I'll be trying with it in the future

In exotic plant store near me they have Dasylirion for about 77 $. Look at this

igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:37 am

igor.glukhovtsev wrote:Perhaps on Monday I'm gonna buy a quite mature specimen of D.wheeleri for 150 $. Unlikely if I would leave it for winter outside but the plant itself looks very unusual. What a bonus!

Yep, as I promised to myself a Dasylirion was purchased today. Compared with his brother in Poland mine is overpriced twice! Oh, poor plants enthusiasts in Kazakhstan!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:59 am

igor.glukhovtsev wrote:
igor.glukhovtsev wrote:Perhaps on Monday I'm gonna buy a quite mature specimen of D.wheeleri for 150 $. Unlikely if I would leave it for winter outside but the plant itself looks very unusual. What a bonus!
Yep, as I promised to myself a Dasylirion was purchased today. Compared with his brother in Poland mine is overpriced twice! Oh, poor plants enthusiasts in Kazakhstan!

That looks good.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:12 am

Sense we are talking about Dasylirion. Here is the best I have seen other than in the wild.

Willcox AZ, double headed. I should have taken a better pic.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:25 pm

nice specimen Igor!

Aaron, that's a massive D. wheeleri....cool.

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