Wollemi Pine survives winter!!
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Wollemi Pine survives winter!!
I hope my Wollemi pine takes off this year. It appears to have survived winter.......the top bud is a little brown......I hope it's not dead.
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A few photos from today. The tip of the Wollemi appears dead.........AGAIN. Perhaps I did not protect enough early in the winter prior to setting up the greenhouse. The tip didn't look that good when I set up the greenhouse.
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I'm not sure if all that sap on the trunk is NORMAL?? Does everyone else have this sap on the trunk??
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I'm not sure if all that sap on the trunk is NORMAL?? Does everyone else have this sap on the trunk??
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Tim, what temps did the Wollemi endure this winter?
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Mine isn't outside, but I've never seen that white stuff (sap?) on the trunk.
Wollemias produce "polar caps" on their buds, presumably to protect them in winter.
Or maybe it was a response to protecting from fires that frequently ravaged their habitat.
The last remaining stand (where it was discovered in 1994) in deep canyon of the Blue Mountain Range of Australia showed those polar caps.
Mine seems to produce polar caps around the buds each year.
Resembles candle wax.
I bet yours will create new buds along the trunk just below the dieback, Tim.
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Wollemias produce "polar caps" on their buds, presumably to protect them in winter.
Or maybe it was a response to protecting from fires that frequently ravaged their habitat.
The last remaining stand (where it was discovered in 1994) in deep canyon of the Blue Mountain Range of Australia showed those polar caps.
Mine seems to produce polar caps around the buds each year.
Resembles candle wax.
I bet yours will create new buds along the trunk just below the dieback, Tim.
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Hi Cameron,
I didn't have a probe inside the greenhouse this winter. The lowest temp recorded at the local school was a mild 5F (-15C). I have lights inside the greenhouse; therefore, I would imagine the temps were likely 10F warmer or so....just guessing. The tip was damaged looking when I constructed the greenhouse on Jan 1 or so. I think we hit 7F (-14C) at the local school prior to the greenhouse going up I placed a cover over it that night. I think that did it in.
Hi Barb,
These Wollemi's are dropping like flys on the east coast (except for the ones in Wash DC). They seem to have root diseases in our soils. Perhaps the National Arboretum knows how to treat for that and there's are much happier/hardier. Joe K took these photos recently.......very cool!
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I didn't have a probe inside the greenhouse this winter. The lowest temp recorded at the local school was a mild 5F (-15C). I have lights inside the greenhouse; therefore, I would imagine the temps were likely 10F warmer or so....just guessing. The tip was damaged looking when I constructed the greenhouse on Jan 1 or so. I think we hit 7F (-14C) at the local school prior to the greenhouse going up I placed a cover over it that night. I think that did it in.
Hi Barb,
These Wollemi's are dropping like flys on the east coast (except for the ones in Wash DC). They seem to have root diseases in our soils. Perhaps the National Arboretum knows how to treat for that and there's are much happier/hardier. Joe K took these photos recently.......very cool!
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Root disease from your "soils"?
May be true, considering the parent stand is on calcerous rock.
And as they've been propagated by tissue culture, variation is unlikely.
But don't give up hope...in habitat, wherever their branches touched the ground, they rooted and the stand continued to spread.
In spring, maybe lay a bottom branch on the soil (after a slight cut--soil side--with a knife), hold it down with a rock and see if it roots.
Maybe sprinkling some limestone dust around its base every year would help to moderate the pH?
Or try wood ashes? (same result).
Nice pics from the Arboretum...wow, have they ever grown.
Updates please, Tim.
Fingers crossed in the meantime.
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May be true, considering the parent stand is on calcerous rock.
And as they've been propagated by tissue culture, variation is unlikely.
But don't give up hope...in habitat, wherever their branches touched the ground, they rooted and the stand continued to spread.
In spring, maybe lay a bottom branch on the soil (after a slight cut--soil side--with a knife), hold it down with a rock and see if it roots.
Maybe sprinkling some limestone dust around its base every year would help to moderate the pH?
Or try wood ashes? (same result).
Nice pics from the Arboretum...wow, have they ever grown.
Updates please, Tim.
Fingers crossed in the meantime.
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Seems they do fine. So it means they are the Zone 8 survivors. I would cover them with some cloth just to be sure they wouldn't burn in March.
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Hi Barb,
I don't know much about root diseases but the Wollemi's are subject to the following:
"They are easily stressed, and prone to phytophthora root rot, as well several other soil diseases."
Tim
I don't know much about root diseases but the Wollemi's are subject to the following:
"They are easily stressed, and prone to phytophthora root rot, as well several other soil diseases."
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Gotta be from acidic soils, I bet.
Growing on rocks in AU, no reports of it there, but I'll have a look.
Hope yours bounces back, Tim.
Growing on rocks in AU, no reports of it there, but I'll have a look.
Hope yours bounces back, Tim.
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Thats cool Tim
I hope it makes it for you......
BTW
My Sequoia is chin high on me(I am 6')and looking at it yesterday
I think this will be the first winter with 0% damage and that with
absolutely no protection at all this year!
This should really blast off this year...maybe even double in size!
I hope it makes it for you......
BTW
My Sequoia is chin high on me(I am 6')and looking at it yesterday
I think this will be the first winter with 0% damage and that with
absolutely no protection at all this year!
This should really blast off this year...maybe even double in size!
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Hi Jim,
it's great your Sequoiadendron has no damage this year. Keep us posted on it's progress this year as it will likely grow 3 ft or so.
PS, I"ve been looking for a zone 6b hardy Sequoia sempervirens form.........do you know of one?
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it's great your Sequoiadendron has no damage this year. Keep us posted on it's progress this year as it will likely grow 3 ft or so.
PS, I"ve been looking for a zone 6b hardy Sequoia sempervirens form.........do you know of one?
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Great news Jim, congrats.
I know how much you love that tree.
I know how much you love that tree.
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TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Jim,
it's great your Sequoiadendron has no damage this year. Keep us posted on it's progress this year as it will likely grow 3 ft or so.
PS, I"ve been looking for a zone 6b hardy Sequoia sempervirens form.........do you know of one?
Tim
I sure don't,that is one that needs to stay wet for sure,not very hardy either.
Thanks Barb
I may see if there is a way to get is recognized so maybe it would be protected
and not accidentally removed at any time by the city.
Then again,letting them know its there....
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Hi Jim,
we stay wet here in Coastal Massachusetts. If we don't get rain for 3 weeks we call it a drought! No kidding. I found a S. sempervirens 'Swarthmore College' which is suppose to be long term hardy in southeast Pennsylvania.....there climate is not much different from ours.........perhaps they are a 1/4 zone to 1/2 zone warmer??
we stay wet here in Coastal Massachusetts. If we don't get rain for 3 weeks we call it a drought! No kidding. I found a S. sempervirens 'Swarthmore College' which is suppose to be long term hardy in southeast Pennsylvania.....there climate is not much different from ours.........perhaps they are a 1/4 zone to 1/2 zone warmer??
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Yeah, that's the Catch 22.I may see if there is a way to get is recognized so maybe it would be protected
and not accidentally removed at any time by the city.
Then again,letting them know its there....
Are there any big-time gardening societies in your area?
If so, they generally wield considerable influence, i.e. "diversity" with officials.
Especially if they conduct garden tours annually and you get "listed" on their website.
While you may shudder at joining a group of mostly 60-ish women there's always safety in numbers.
Besides, you'd look good in a skirt.
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Update photo of my Wollemi pine. I guess I protected too late this year as all the new growth died. The old growth is fine......hmmmmm interesting observation.
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It'll branch below the kill, Tim.
Did you see any polar cap formation (white waxy stuff on the buds) last Fall?
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Did you see any polar cap formation (white waxy stuff on the buds) last Fall?
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Hi Barb,
yes I did see polar caps last fall on the Wollemi. I didn't construct the greenhouse until the first week of January.........we had a few cold nights prior to that so I guess it got a little too cold??
yes I did see polar caps last fall on the Wollemi. I didn't construct the greenhouse until the first week of January.........we had a few cold nights prior to that so I guess it got a little too cold??
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Yeah, probably.
The main thing is it's alive.
The main thing is it's alive.
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sorry Barb..........I dug the Wollemi up today...........I'll donate it to someone with a greenhouse. I understand why they are nearly extinct.
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One that size is worth about $200 around here...dug the Wollemi up today...........I'll donate it to someone with a greenhouse. I understand why they are nearly extinct
It could go into your basement/cool porch/spare room
Understand if it's a disappointment to you.
After all the years I waited and what I went through to get mine, it NEVER sees 32F 0C...
Gets treated better than H.
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Interesting comments about this plant. Kev Spence from GOTE did a thread on this plant. He has even managed to get cones on his plant. Also some interesting comments from American members.
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Thanks for that link, Andy.
Interesting about cone location north/south
When I heard some were dying (that shouldn't have "weatherwise"), wondered if they'd start dying all over the world.
I believe propagation was via tissue culture from the original stand in the Blue Mountains back in 1994.
So very little variation.
Mine may have seen -2C in the garage; back indoors now.
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Interesting about cone location north/south
When I heard some were dying (that shouldn't have "weatherwise"), wondered if they'd start dying all over the world.
I believe propagation was via tissue culture from the original stand in the Blue Mountains back in 1994.
So very little variation.
Mine may have seen -2C in the garage; back indoors now.
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Hi Andy,
I had my Wollemi outside in protection for 2 winters now and it received sever die-back each winter........the low temperature was down to 7F or so inside the protection.
Wollemi's are zone 8b/9a plants. I really don't have an interest in growing large 'tree' plants which can't take temperatures below 10F. I was hoping it would get hardier with age.
I had my Wollemi outside in protection for 2 winters now and it received sever die-back each winter........the low temperature was down to 7F or so inside the protection.
Wollemi's are zone 8b/9a plants. I really don't have an interest in growing large 'tree' plants which can't take temperatures below 10F. I was hoping it would get hardier with age.
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Hi Barb,
your Wollemi is a BEAUTY! Don't place it outside or it will look like mine.
your Wollemi is a BEAUTY! Don't place it outside or it will look like mine.
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like palms and yuccas, Tim?would get hardier with age
If I could grow yuccas like you folks on PN, I probably wouldn't ever have ordered a Wollemi.
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Hi Barb,
next season protect 2 of your rostratas and leave the 3rd unprotected. I think it will be OK in your area since your so dry.
next season protect 2 of your rostratas and leave the 3rd unprotected. I think it will be OK in your area since your so dry.
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Wollemi pine in our local zoo:
I don't know if gets any protection during winters.
I don't know if gets any protection during winters.
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It might have to do with a soil organism that is lacking in the US. There is quite a lot of information about this with a simple google:
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A complex community of microorganisms lives within and alongside wollemi pines.The moist microclimate that shelters the trees promotes symbiotic associations with several spe-cies of endophytic and mycorrhizal fungi. The former live between the plant’s own cells in theleaves and stems. There, some types produce chemical compounds that help protect the plantfrom pathogens. One such substance is paclitaxel, an important anti-cancer drug that is currentlyharvested from the rare Pacific Yew and sold as Taxol in North America. Mycorrhizal fungi live inand among root cells and send projections out into the soil, where they aid nutrient absorption.
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Might do that, Tim.protect 2 of your rostratas and leave the 3rd unprotected
Tough to choose which one to sacrifice
marceli, that's a big specimen at the zoo, wow.
Did the zoo have it locked inside a steel cage when it arrived?
Seems most the botanic gardens did that.
Part of the hype.
Interesting info, Jesse.a soil organism that is lacking in the US.
The botanists will figure that out in no time.
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Barb, I found it by accident. Will try to check someday in spring if it's still there.lucky1 wrote:marceli, that's a big specimen at the zoo, wow.
Did the zoo have it locked inside a steel cage when it arrived?
Seems most the botanic gardens did that.
Part of the hype.
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I hope the zoo realizes the value of that specimen and looks after it.if it's still there.
Megabucks, but probably a donation.
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