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I picked up this 3 gallon Trachy lastnight from Bill. His palms and greenhouse are amazing! I will defenately be back for some Banana and a 7 gallon trachy.






I still need to go and pickup a much larger pot that I have at my parents house. I'm gonna re pot it and report on it's progress, I think it should do well, I swear the main spear has opened up a bit since lastnight, too hard to tell. I brought it inside for last night just incase but now it's on my front porch (facing east) with the windows open.

Nice pickup! It's a 2fer!

Hey Andy, that's a great looking palm you got from Bill.

You two must've had a nice chinwag...oh, to be able to see his palms/GH in person.
Great that you live nearby.

Try and keep it at the same temps that it saw at Bill's place.

Soon you'll be going back for his 9-footers
Barb

Healthy looking palms.

Nice one,looks like a Naini Tal.

Paul, I actually wanted one that was a single trunk, but my girlfriend saw some larger double trunk ones, and loved the looks! I figured I could always go back and get a single trunk one as well <br>
Barb, his setup/GH definitely gives me some encouragement! I got a little tour of his yard, showed me all of the different palms/bananas and Cycads and how they're protected. The drive down isn't bad at all, only takes a little less than an hour to get there, definitely worth it to pick something out, rather than ordering online and not know exactly what your getting!<br>
Thanks Jordan!<br>
Jim, how can I tell the difference between a regular Trachy and a Naini Tal?

To clarify: It's not a 2 trunked plant, it is 2 plants in a pot together. It is exceptionally rare for Trachycarpus to have a split trunk.

Still, a very nice grab. It will look good planted out!

F1aReD wrote:
Jim, how can I tell the difference between a regular Trachy and a Naini Tal?

Good question-they are basically the same thing.


Looking down on your palm,as in the second picture
you posted,you can see the center blades are still fused
together,this is often seen in Naini Tal for some reason-
that's why I said it "looks" like a Naini Tal.


This is a very small Naini Tal so-not the best example but
you can certainly get the idea.
Notice the center 4 blades,still fused-
Naini Tal seems to hold on to this trait longer then "typical" Fortunei.

There are some other "traits" but this is an easy one to illustrate/

Hmm...Bill had some other ones that looked more like a regular Trachycarpus fortunei, this one I got I thought looked a little bit different because the fronds were fused together, and the ends drooped, the others didn't do that. I think your right Jim, this is a Nainital not a regular fortunei.<br>
Isn't a Nainital supposed to be more cold hardy? The other ones had turned yellow (the ones without the fused fronds and no droops), where as this one was still bright green, I don't know if that's because the one I got is from NC, and the others were from Florida? Or because I have a Nainital? Unless a Nainital has not proven to be that much more cold hardy than the rest, which would mean it is true that palms from warmer areas need more time to "harden up" Either way, I'm happy with my purchase and I actually want to buy one of the more yellow ones to see the difference.<br>
Paul, is it possible that a Trachycarpus fortunei and a Nainital could have been planted together? Or a Waggy and a regular Fortunei? I have looked and I believe both palms are the same exact palms, but I'm just curious

Naini Tal(for some reason I spell it this way)

I believe was originally thought to be Trachycarpus Takil-it
was brought over by the famous palm hunters Gibbons and Spanner
and sold for a while until it was realized a mistake was made....
sad if you wanted a true Takil(or payed for one )for sure!

But Naini Tal is no slouch!


Since it(seeds) was brought over/made available it has been tested by
several people and I believe was found to be slightly more cold hardy than Fortunei,
all under the guise of being Takil

No worries,it is a great palm,mine was one of few in my garden that did not pull,
it is proven to be one tough palm!

There is some possibility that there are hybrids with Fortunei out there that are faster
growing and slightly less hardy but who cares?-great palm anyway you slice it!

You picked a great palm either(Fortunei/Naini Tal) way.

Interesting tidbit I found on the town of Naini Tal-



Nainital has temperate summers, maximum temperature 27 °C (81 °F); minimum temperature 7 °C (45 °F),
during which its population increases more than fivefold with an annual influx of tourists predominantly from the
plains of Northern India. In the winter, Nainital receives snowfall between December and February with the
temperatures varying between a maximum of 15 °C (59 °F) and a minimum of &#8722;3 °C (26.6 °F).


Takil has a similar habitat with high temps in winter about the same
but the low temps down to the mid teens (F)as it grows about a 1000' higher -

nice palm......good luck with your new palm collection! Did you see any Trachy blooms on this big specimens?

Bill's place is quite the sight!! Great palm! Hope it does well for you!! 82f at your place Jim!!?? That's nuts!! Enjoy it

Yea,low 80s yesterday and mid 80s today!

The Bananas grew an inch overnight and their not even rooted yet!


Usually you have to pay for this warm/this early....
either with storms or,instead of 20F above normal-
it swings back 20F below.
Looks like that will happen by the end of the week.
Hopefully it is short lived

Tim, I did see the big trachys flowering. They're not only growing, there growing and thriving!<br>
Scotty, so far so good with this palm! Knock on wood of course, and I still haven't re potted it.<br>
Jim, thats crazy! We've only gotten up into the 60s I believe.