Corals moving North

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:10 am

Caused by warming oceans.

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... ving_north

Could palms be far behind?
Barb

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:50 pm

cool........I'll have to look for some coral next time I go swimming! There are limestone deposits here in New England....so coral was here in the past! We could use another 10F in water temp to enjoy it....we usually top out at 70F or so in summer.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:19 pm

Tim,
Wear rubber sandals in case you find some

Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:54 am

Barb,
I have read recent articles about Trachycarpus fortunei and Sabal minor doing just that.
If you haven't seen them, I'll find PDF copiues for you. --Erik

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:50 am

Erik, the Trachies naturalizing in Switzerland's forests are proof.
Haven't seen the Sabal minor story though.

Barb

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:03 am

Here is a link to a publicly accessible version of the Sabal minor story:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... ntent;col1

--Erik

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:20 am

Good link, Erik, thanks.

Nice that they're in New Jersey and SE Pennsylvania.
Canada, here they come!

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:20 pm

Hmmm-that reminds me-I'm thirsty!

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:39 am

WEll most plants and animals retreated south when glaciation occrured. Concidering how much warmer its been since then, im not suprised at all. Im suprised Trachy hasnt naturilized in BC ( If im wrong id love to see an article).

Thanks for the post

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:29 am

Jesse,
read this article:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 328.x/full
It focuses on Switzerland, but refers to BC Trachy.
There are also YouTube videos of this from BC you can search for.
--Erik
P.S. I am interested in this phenomena, but am focusing on Sabal minor.

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:01 am

it says i have to sign up. Ill find the article in a bit. Thanks again.

Ive always been interested in in this also. I used to have an article on the supposed old range of palms in north america. In Drumhellar Alberta ( Royal Tyrell Museum), they have the Cretaceous garden, in which modern representitives ( or in some cases still living) plants from that area are kept. They have a big Sabal there. Unfortunatly I cant remember the name, but I might still have a pic of it somewhere.

Also, I bought a Chinese fan palm a while back, and my mother commented that she found rocks with leaves like that around the shale mountains around here...

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:27 am

Fossils?

she found rocks with leaves like that around the shale mountains around here...

Quite the find!

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:42 am

Not when you hear that they slid down the mountain ON them....

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:42 pm

PalmsNorth.com

Corals moving North

Corals moving North

Sabal minor range expansion