Sabal "louisiana"

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:14 pm

I am negotiating with Amazing Gardens in Oklahoma city for a 30 gallon Sabal "Lousiana".
From what I can tell, this should require fairly minimal winter protection.
Does anyone have experience with this palm?
--Erik

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:53 am

I have 6 of them(as pictured in my current pic post),they are one of,if not my favorite Sabals!

I would definitely protect from cold wind and frigid Arctic temps.

Isn't AG in your state,if so-maybe it's pretty well acclimated

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:11 am

Thanks, Jim.
Yes, AG is here in Oklahoma. I'd like to assume that the particular ones Bryan is selling are used to the weather here; their website implies they are hardy in OKC without protection.
My microclimate is bad--full sun in summer, intense wind in winter. So, I will protect it winters, but hopefully it wouldn't need electricity.
--Erik

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:33 pm

I think their hardy to -15C? Mabey -18C.... I belive their zone 7... All i know for sure is that they are hardier then S minor... and correct me if im wrong, but their native there correct?

Jim, was that you who was telling me they grow faster or recover faster then normal S Minor?

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:10 pm

That's a great size Erik.
Can't wait to see it.

BILL MA · Post by **BILL MA** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:09 am

That sounds awesome Erik, I bet it's a big sucker too! Eat your Wheaties before you plant that one

Canadianplant,
Sabal minor is tougher than Louisiana, and sabal minor Mcurtain is the native one to Oklahoma. \

Bill

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:58 am

My issue with the cold hardiness rating is this-

so what if a palm is hardier if it grows to slow to recover?

My Lou's have put out 5 leaves this year,well......some of them..

Bill doesn't have to worry about about growth speed because he gets Trachy like growth
out of his Needle palms!

Ask him how he does it before buying a slow palm

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:29 pm

Thanks for the support guys.
I'm hoping to take off from work Tuesday to go get it. Hopefully plant it that evening or Wednesday; we may get rain late in the week.
W and I are planning a "palm party" for Sept. 4, hoping that everyone we know who doesn't go out to a lake for labor day weekend will bring the kids over to swim. Grown ups will drink the beer W brewed or the wine she made. If any of you can drive down (I'm thinking esp. of you folks in Wichita!), let me know.
As for cold-hardiness, the AG site about their Sabal louisiana is here: http://www.alligatoralley.com/louisianafluitt.html
They claim that it is "nearly" as cold-hardy as Sabal minor but faster growing.

--Erik

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:26 am

I would agree for what it's worth-great Sabal.
One of my favorites!

canadianplant · Post by **canadianplant** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:03 am

Thanks bill....

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:38 pm

Bryan from AG emailed me photos of his three 30g Sabal louisiana.
So, it looks like I'll be bringing home one of these on Tuesday.

#1
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#2
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#3
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Any suggestions on which one is the best?
--Erik

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:58 pm

I like the first one Erik, looks ready to skyrocket.
If you can't decide, take all three (*grin*).

Great customer service emailing you pictures.

Barb

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:45 am

Yea #1 has some purdy leaves!

JackLord · Post by **JackLord** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:24 am

TerdalFarm wrote:I am negotiating with Amazing Gardens in Oklahoma city for a 30 gallon Sabal "Lousiana".
From what I can tell, this should require fairly minimal winter protection.
Does anyone have experience with this palm?
--Erik

I have a small one growing in an obscure spot behind a large shrub. I cannot remember where I procured it. Maybe eBay. Anyway, so far I have protected it by throwing some leaves on top and then putting a large ceramic planter over it.

Yours, being larger, will obviously be tougher. Nonetheless, I would heed the 2-3 years protection rule.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:31 am

Good advice-

because it looks like this palm is kept in a poly tunnel-

probably hasn't seen REAL winter weather!

So,you know what that means......build another Gazebo!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:42 am

probably hasn't seen REAL winter weather!

or summer...

Barb

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