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Loughborough Lake
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:58 am
by ScottyON
Here's a few pics from my trailer. I have a small garden I started last year that I threw a few things in..

A couple BLE's

Tiny Windmill Palm I planted from seed.

Palmetto I overwintered with a leaf wrap and no heat! This spot is colder than where I live since it's further from Lake Ontario. It looked dead in the spring but it's coming a long.
I shot a short vid if you would like to check it out...
http://www.youtube.com/user/Hardypalmsa ... CpEkTSCj2E
Enjoy your day!!
Scott
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:10 pm
by BILL MA
That looks like a really nice place to kickback, relax, and have a nice swim! My kind of place.
That's a regular old palmetto not a minor? Not bad if that's the case.
Bill
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:51 pm
by ScottyON
When I bought it they person told me it was a dwarf palmetto.. So would it be the hardiest ever then surviving a zone 4b winter?????? hehe..
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:10 pm
by BILL MA
Scott,
Dwarf palmetto is "minor" regular palmetto's don't usually get the heel unless they are super root bound. That's the easiest way to tell when it's in a pot for next time. You and Paul need to duke it out who's colder you or him.
Sorry man, your better off with a minor anyways
Bill
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:58 pm
by TerdalFarm
Overwintering any Sabal up there is an accomplishment. Well done!
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:26 pm
by ScottyON
Thanks for setting me straight Bill
But I don't want it to be cold though..
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:17 am
by BILL MA
I don't want the cold either buddy! Like Erik said rock on to that sabal for getting it through regardless.
Bill
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:08 am
by Paul Ont
Hey guys- FYI Scottys place on the lake is about 10km from mine... Maybe more like 5 if you could go straight across the lake!
I'd give the lake side the nod by 1/10 of a USDA zone over my place!
The Sabal minor there is performing similarly to the 'McCurtain' I planted a few years ago (it faced a colder winter than this one past)... It survived the first winter only to perish the next... A 'regular' minor next door perished the first winter!
Oh, and my long term T. fortunei is now officially dead. It was planted 4 (5?) years ago, survived 3 winters (or was it 4, I can't remember) with a wrapping, but finally succumbed this year. The needle next door also isn't showing any green, but I've not given up on it just yet.
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:24 am
by hardyjim
Sorry to hear that Paul-
It's sad when one you have had for a while goes,I came close this year
with my 2 oldest Trachys as you may know(the trunk cut one),I would have been seriously bummed
if I would had lost my 2 oldest,you just can't replace the years lost no matter how big a palm/no
matter what you replace it with!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:08 am
by TerdalFarm
I'm sorry, too. I lost two Trachies a decade ago (despite protection that had worked previous winters!) and was so upset I gave up on palms until three years ago. Keep trying. Palms are individuals. My cheap Home Depot Chamaerops has done great against all odds. --Erik
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:45 pm
by BILL MA
Sorry to hear about your palm losses Paul!
Looks like Scott has the most Northern Minor on the block now. It must have been his extra 1f or 1/10th of a zone that helped his survive the winter.
Bill
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:14 am
by Paul Ont
Bill- No no- I still have a minor, but one that is well protected! I've got him 3 miles!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:22 am
by BILL MA
Paul,
I'm glade to hear you still have your older sabal. Do you still have your needle palm too? We need some pictures from you! What about your basjoos?
Bill
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:12 pm
by ScottyON
Yeah but I didn't use any lights with it!
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:37 am
by Paul Ont
To be clear- I have 2 palms remaining in the ground. A needle and a minor. These are protected with lights.
The other palms I was describing were all given burlap or frost cloth wrapping. These are the ones that hang on for a while (4 years for fortunei, 2 for minor, 4 for needle, 2 for chamherops, 0 for others) but perish after a few years. I wonder if a wrapping, some leaves, then another wrap, would be enough to overwinter more foliage?
Scotty- the things that impress me about your minor, given my experience in a similar climate: 1) It's not a northern source (or is it?) 2) It survived a winter that killed my palms that are only wrapped (needle and trachy)... Now you just have to get it through this coming winter!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:44 am
by BILL MA
Scotty, are you up for the challenge

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:37 am
by ScottyON
Nope, I'm out....
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:29 am
by hardyjim
Your welcome Paul-

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:20 pm
by BILL MA
That's some good stuff Scott

By the way your my Canadian representative for people who want to be involved in the Thai Giant grow off next spring, sponsored by me. Only a couple of bucks for shipping is necessary to join
I'll make a post to see how many people want to participate.
Paul pays double

Just kidding!!!!
Bill
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:33 pm
by ScottyON
Yesssss, I'm in!! Looks like Jim is getting some early practice this year! He's probably got some crazy stuff he's feeding it... Count me in.. I'll order two some I can grow one at the trailer too!!

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:33 am
by Paul Ont
BILL MA wrote:
Paul pays double :twisted: Just kidding!!!!
Bill
I accept my role as the board grump with pleasure!!!
Scotty- I am looking forward to seeing your big Trachys this coming weekend... Did you want a few of those split leaf B.C. ones to play with at your trailer?
I'll send you an email.
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:58 am
by ScottyON
Probably Sunday would work better for me if it works for you??
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:07 am
by Paul Ont
sounds good to me!
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:38 pm
by lucky1
Hey Scotty what a great place.
Heck, bet it's tempting to live there 9 mos
Congrats on the overwintering success! that's quite a feat.
Sorry to hear your trachy's dead Paul, what a shame.
I'll pass on the Thai Giant bet, too much wind here.
There'd be nothing left of it at summer's end to measure
Barb