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My new palms garden
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:11 am
by henry5 zone5
look my butia capitata -trachycarpus F. and my rhapidophillum H.
Henry
Re: My new palms garden
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:13 am
by henry5 zone5
henry5 zone5 wrote:look my butia capitata -trachycarpus F. and my rhapidophillum H.
Henry

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:15 am
by henry5 zone5
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:38 am
by Paul Ont
Pretty Solid for zone 4 Henry! I think there's a guy in zone 4 Utah who is also growing Butia... Does anyone have a link for that?
Cheers,
Paul
Zone 4/5 Kingston, ON.
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:24 am
by TerdalFarm
Henry,
looks super! Have you done all that this year?
--Erik
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:37 pm
by BILL MA
Wow Henry you have been busy! Looks awesome! That rock outline really makes things jump out at you, love the vertical ones. What a great idea!
Bill
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:39 pm
by BILL MA
By the way can you add some more organic matter to your soil it doesn't look rich enough

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:54 pm
by hardyjim
Paul Ont wrote:Pretty Solid for zone 4 Henry! I think there's a guy in zone 4 Utah who is also growing Butia... Does anyone have a link for that?
Cheers,
Paul
Zone 4/5 Kingston, ON.
That was Paul's way of telling you, he thinks you live in zone 4
You have a real talent for design,looks great!
Link to Arctictropicals pics-
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load ... 98206.html
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:51 am
by Paul Ont
Jim- I was trying to be subtle... There is relatively little 'true' USDA zone 5 in Quebec... Only the downtown Montreal heat island is 5a (barely), long-term. There is, however, quite a bit of solid zone 4 along the river in the Montreal area. When you get down toward Brockville ON you get back on the USDA zone 5 border!
But, to get back to what matters, the palms look great, and take a hard look at what Arctictropicals does, but, keep in mind, that he is quite a bit south of us, and the cold is less long lived and his daytime highs are much warmer in winter!
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:48 pm
by ScottyON
Looks awesome!! Let me guess, did you visit Mike?? Is this the first year your palms will be in the ground???
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:02 pm
by ScottyON
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:52 am
by Paul Ont
Scotty, that's Canadian zone, not based on the same criteria as the USDA zones (and the cause of much confusion)... Here's what it says about Sydenham, which is right on the border of zone 4b and 5a long term:
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/garden ... _gardening . The Canadian zone is generally, (in the east) one full zone colder than the USDA zone. A few exceptions are found in nova Scotia, where places like Yarmouth (USDA zone 7a)
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/garden ... _gardening . This has to do with the multifactorial nature of the Canadian map.
Ain't no way Sydenham is a 5b, the only long term USDA 5b stations in the area are Amherst Island (barely) and Point Petre (Barely). Ok, enough of my negtive attitude... I'll save the zone realism for the noobs.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:40 am
by henry5 zone5
Thanks for all your replies and comments but i have just a wish , to be able to keep each one alive
Thanks again
Henry
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:54 am
by Paul Ont
Henry- In terms of protection Scotty on this board overwintered non-hardy palms in zone 5 Kingston, ON. He'd be the one to talk to about heating and protection!
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:35 am
by henry5 zone5
Paul Ont wrote:Henry- In terms of protection Scotty on this board overwintered non-hardy palms in zone 5 Kingston, ON. He'd be the one to talk to about heating and protection!
Paul a BIG BIG MERCI for your help
Henry
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:29 am
by hardyjim
I think people get way to involved in the zone thing(not saying you guys

)just in general.
I mean- I say I live in zone 5b- some winters are zone 6a,that does not cover
having 70 days of sub-32f highs some years.
Some like to say they live in a micro-climate and there lows are similar to zone 7a or
whatever but imagine how mild it is in zone 7a when the lows and highs are taken into account-
Those people say their micro-climates are zone 8a or 8b, like Washington D.C for example.
What really matters is what CAN grow there,D.C. is about the Northern limit near the east coast of
where Trachys,Needles and Sabals can grow unprotected,like Henry said,just keep them alive.
I create about a dry zone 7 equivalent for my palms and they 'just' do make it

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:54 am
by BILL MA
Henry,
You got tons of time to get your protection down. You definitely have a lot of minds to pick on here about palm huts too.
Zones are nothing more then a guideline, they give you a general idea of what to expect on a average winter. Zone 4-7 as long as you know how to properly protect for your area your golden! Obviously the warmer the better in winter, but we got what we got so if it's to cold for anyone move south

I would love to live in a coastal SC zone 8, but I'm here so I do what I have to do to grow plants that would live down there:D
Bill
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:16 am
by henry5 zone5
Thank Bill Ma , it`s pretty clear in my head i'm OK with my location , i would love to living some where warmer too but it's
impossible at the moment.
The most important right now for me it`s to be able to get my BB alive , i wish with your help!
thank's again everyone
Henry
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:28 pm
by lucky1
This Fall will see one more person building a hut.
Good!
Sure a nice color on that Butia!
And the size of the Trachy...wow.
It must have been a labour of love building that bed.
Great specimens.
Barb
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:24 am
by henry5 zone5
ScottyON wrote:Looks awesome!! Let me guess, did you visit Mike?? Is this the first year your palms will be in the ground???
Hello Scotty , yes i did and i think u did it too ?
About my palms it absolutely the first time for each one in the ground , U have 2 on 2 BRAVO!
Have u some suggestion to me?
THANK
Henry
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:37 am
by henry5 zone5
lucky1 wrote:This Fall will see one more person building a hut.
Good!
Sure a nice color on that Butia!
And the size of the Trachy...wow.
It must have been a labour of love building that bed.
Great specimens.
Barb

Barb , thank for your incitement and your gentile words , for this fall i just hope to be able to protect each one
correctly .
Barb
Henry