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agave in my garden

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:11 pm
by DesertZone
Agave parryi
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Agave parryi truncata new 2009
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agave parryi
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agave hybrid utah/newmaxicana
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:06 pm
by DesertZone
Up date pics, winter 2010/09

neomexicana
not doing good!
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truncata,
not doing good.
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parryi,
had better days!
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parviflora,
looks like it might die.
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hybrid,
Doing good, little burn
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parryi,
no burn at all, but had plastic over it. This is going to be a hardy agave :wink:
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:30 pm
by DesertZone
sept 2010

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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:23 pm
by lucky1
Aaron, sorry missed this.
That A.parryi certainly did well last winter with only plastic over it.
Forgot what you said your absolute low was.

Bonus that it's also the best looking Agave!
Barb

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:52 am
by TimMAz6
nice recovery for some of those Agaves!! I hope you have an easy winter so they get even larger.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:01 am
by BILL MA
Those agaves did come back nicely. Are you planning on putting plastic over all of them this year until they get bigger?

Bill

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:00 pm
by DesertZone
BILL MA wrote:Those agaves did come back nicely. Are you planning on putting plastic over all of them this year until they get bigger?

Bill
I'm going to put plastic over all of them but the hybrid. It seems to be doing well enough and is bigger than it looks. So far it is the most hardy agave I have had in my garden. I hope winter is kind to it. :|

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:16 pm
by DesertZone
lucky1 wrote:Aaron, sorry missed this.
That A.parryi certainly did well last winter with only plastic over it.
Forgot what you said your absolute low was.

Bonus that it's also the best looking Agave!
Barb
I think it was -5.8F or -21C, what made it a bad winter is that things were still growing right before it got below 9F and then a few days later it was -0. And if that was not enough spring came very late. I lost cactus and stuff I had for years.

It was a bonus to have 2 cool agave survive such a bad winter. :D

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:40 am
by lucky1
I lost cactus and stuff I had for years.
That hurts!

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:32 am
by DesertZone

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:10 pm
by lucky1
That's such a beauty, Aaron.

Not a blemish on leaf segments... :D

Looks like the forecast for at least the next month is for warm temps, and it'll keep growing.
Hopefully late Fall, temps will drop slowly.

Barb

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:10 am
by DesertZone
lucky1 wrote:That's such a beauty, Aaron.

Not a blemish on leaf segments... :D

Looks like the forecast for at least the next month is for warm temps, and it'll keep growing.
Hopefully late Fall, temps will drop slowly.

Barb
Thanks Barb!

And thanks for the forcast, I sure it will be a great fall. :D

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:55 pm
by cuja1
Awesome agave!

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:30 am
by DesertZone
cuja1 wrote:Awesome agave!
Thanks!

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:33 am
by hardyjim
Is this the Parryi?

Havardiana has been a tough one for me.


Sorry I don't have a picture of it :wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:15 am
by DesertZone
hardyjim wrote:Id this the Parryi?

Havardiana has been a tough one for me.


Sorry I don't have a picture of it :wink:
Yes, it is Parryi. Comes from a cold snowy area north of Prescott AZ.

I have not had any luck with Havardiana so far even covered, but I will try again this year. I seen one you have and it looks amazing. :D

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:22 am
by cuja1
The suckers on my harvardiana seem to be growing faster than the parent. I wonder if I didn't water it enough the first year I got it.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:52 am
by DesertZone
cuja1 wrote:The suckers on my harvardiana seem to be growing faster than the parent. I wonder if I didn't water it enough the first year I got it.
Could be that the suckers are adapting better to the new soil after the transplant? I would take them off and start new plants with them, and then I bet the parent plant will do better. Maybe too late? :|

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:36 pm
by cuja1
Thanks Aaron. It's not doing too bad, just slower than I expected.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:45 am
by hardyjim
Aaron

My Havardiana looked a little behaggered the first winter,a little bit of
moisture and cold damage was the culprit.


Cuja1


How big is the Havardiana?

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:47 pm
by cuja1
Jim,

it's about 4 inches wide or so, it put out about 2 new leaves this summer, but 2 new suckers appeared this summer as well and one of them has 4 leaves (if thats the correct term for them), the sucker is still smaller than the parent. I also repotted it this spring so I don't know if that makes a difference. My a. parryi that arrived this spring hasn't grown much either, but the a. parryi that I planted in the ground has done real well. I'm kind of worried about how its going to do outside.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:49 am
by hardyjim
cuja1 wrote:Jim,

it's about 4 inches wide or so, it put out about 2 new leaves this summer, but 2 new suckers appeared this summer as well and one of them has 4 leaves (if thats the correct term for them), the sucker is still smaller than the parent. I also repotted it this spring so I don't know if that makes a difference. My a. parryi that arrived this spring hasn't grown much either, but the a. parryi that I planted in the ground has done real well. I'm kind of worried about how its going to do outside.


If you keep it dry(no moisture inside the cover)and above 10F you won't have any problems...

at least I didn't and I planted these in December :shock:

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:37 am
by DesertZone
Agave havardiana Leaf burn, and so early in the season. :?
http://unkowndestination.blogspot.com/2 ... -fall.html

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:04 pm
by hardyjim
Thats a nice one-maybe when they are small they aren't so tough?

I do have a A.Neomexicana that is about that size and it has been ok


Here is what mine looked like when I planted it.Dec 6th 2008



<a href="http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm22 ... -08001.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm22 ... -08001.jpg" border="0" alt="Havardiana 12-6-08"></a>

<a href="http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm22 ... -08011.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm22 ... -08011.jpg" border="0" alt="soil temp 12-6-08"></a>


and 3 months later in March


<a href="http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm22 ... -09034.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm22 ... -09034.jpg" border="0" alt="A.havardiana"></a>


........just a little pickled :lol:


The center of this plant now is thick like a telephone pole

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:58 pm
by lucky1
Aaron, what a shame.
I can't imagine that the lower sun angle in Fall is so intense?
It'll bounce back by putting out lots of new leaves. :D

Jim you plant in DECEMBER???? :shock:
So much for the theory about root development before cold arrives.

Barb

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:26 pm
by DesertZone
lucky1 wrote:I can't imagine that the lower sun angle in Fall is so intense?

Barb
I should have made it more clear, it was frost bite. :wink:

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:30 pm
by DesertZone
hardyjim wrote:Thats a nice one-maybe when they are small they aren't so tough?
I think if it makes it through a winter it will more hardy. A bit on the small side.

Thanks for sharing the pics. :D

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:42 am
by hardyjim
Hope it makes it,my Parryi looked like yours after the first winter
maybe a little better but only because it was covered...
one issue I had was condensation dripping on the cactus during the day
and freezing every night.


My winter planting technique for palms and cactus,water once
after planting and then not again until soil temps are well over 50F in spring.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:42 am
by TimMAz6
Those are some beauties! That one hybrid between utahensis and neomexicana is real cool.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:18 pm
by andym
I recently aquired Agave Havardiana... a beautiful Agave.
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This Agave will be planted in the spring and join (if they survive the Winter) Agave Montana and Neomexicana.
Gives me the shivers though seeing those "pickled" Agaves :? The Montana has been through three cold Winters here without damage protected by an evergreen shrub.

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Here's Neomexicana planted just below Montana

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First season in the ground for this Agave.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:57 pm
by hardyjim
The Neomexicana at the end sure are sharp,
I have found mine to be exceptionally slow but
it is a lot smaller than the others.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:14 am
by DesertZone
andym wrote:Image
First season in the ground for this Agave.
Love this agave, where did you get it? Looks like a form of parryi. :?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:17 am
by DesertZone
hardyjim wrote:The Neomexicana at the end sure are sharp,
I have found mine to be exceptionally slow but
it is a lot smaller than the others.
Mine also seems too grow slower than the others, that and agave utahensis. :D

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:22 am
by DesertZone
TimMAz6 wrote:Those are some beauties! That one hybrid between utahensis and neomexicana is real cool.
Thanks Tim, I like it also. Too bad it has frost damage on the lower leaves, but still amazed it survived uncovered that winter that kill so many plants here. :shock: A few more years and seeds for everyone! :D

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:10 pm
by TimMAz6
great Agaves Andy. The A. montana is nice with its dark green leaves.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:12 pm
by marceli
Too much moisture in my area for agaves I guess. If they were cheaper, I'd try them out.
Yours look great! One of the best I've seen growing in such low temperatures. Love that hybrid! :)

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:42 am
by DesertZone
marceli wrote:Too much moisture in my area for agaves I guess. If they were cheaper, I'd try them out.
Yours look great! One of the best I've seen growing in such low temperatures. Love that hybrid! :)
I hope one day you can find a cheaper source, they have been a lot of fun in the garden. :D

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:08 pm
by andym
DesertZone wrote:
andym wrote:Image
First season in the ground for this Agave.
Love this agave, where did you get it? Looks like a form of parryi. :?
Aaron... sorry for late reply... I bought the plant from Nigel Kembrey who is a palm specialist in the UK. Cost me £35 :D
I am not an Agave specialist but isn't Neomexicana a form of Agave Parryi? I have another smaller plant sold as Parryi. This plant has a greener colour to it compared to the bluer Neomexicana. This agave is planted in the Yucca border.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:19 pm
by andym
TimMAz6 wrote:great Agaves Andy. The A. montana is nice with its dark green leaves.
Thanks Tim... anyone grow it over there? BTW here's its Daddy
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Actually it was from a seed collection by Nick Macer of Pan Global Plants. Will do a thread on his Nursery some time :)

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:30 pm
by andym
TimMAz6 wrote:Those are some beauties! That one hybrid between utahensis and neomexicana is real cool.
This does look a beauty... I haven't seen it my side of the pond. Is it easy to obtain over there?