Flowering Palms

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:21 pm

It seems like the time of year for the Chamaedoreas to bloom, starting to notice the inflorescence's appearing

Has anyone been successful at hand pollination?

Steve

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:09 am

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:17 am

Steve,
How to I post a picture without the properties info that is around my photo?
Don

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:08 pm

Don,

The http:// address of the photo needs to go between img tags,

[img]http://lh6.ggpht.com/_of77_9IEPRg/SUaqJ ... C-021S.JPG[/img]

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:08 pm

Will give you this,

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:12 pm

I haven't used Picassa to host photos, do they give you an option with the IMG tags?

BTW ~ Nice looking Palm!

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:12 am

The Parlour Palms are still going, Chamaedorea elegans

And the Cat Palms are just starting, Chamaedorea cataractarum

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:29 am

Nice that yours are so far along.

My Bamboo palm, which flowered 3-4 times this winter, just developed a very serious case of spider mites.
Other palms next to it (triangle, cat, chinese fan, spindle) are all unaffected thank goodness.

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:46 am

Have you tried treating it with anything yet? Hopefully in a couple weeks it will be warm enough to go outside!
(sunshine & a rinse will do wonders)

I've been collecting pollen from the Cat Palms, using it on the Parlour Palms.
(not sure if it will cross, but good practice

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:39 am

Hi Steve,
Frequent heavy misting (bottom up) seems to keep it from getting worse.
The misting shows how bad the webbing really is

Also a couple of blasts from Safers insecticidal soap.
I should have noticed it sooner!

As soon as weather warms for more than just a few hours each day, it's going outside.

I know nothing about hybridizing; it'll be interesting to read what happens Steve.
Keep us informed please.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:11 pm

No luck on the cross pollination and everything is still flowering away

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:35 pm

Maybe it takes longer than two months to set seed?
Nice, even if pollination doesn't occur!

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:49 pm

It's that time of year again for the Chamaedorea's

Parlour Palms,

Cat Palms just starting,

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:22 am

I'll have to enjoy your flowers, Steve.
My parlour palm croaked in the winds and heat this summer.
Never again a clay pot for a Chamaedorea!

Those topmost roots on the Cat are cool.
Probably an adaptation to prevent being washed away during flooding.
My cat palm isn't in water, so no need for those roots.
Nice adaptation from a great palm.

Hope you get some hybrids!

Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:56 pm

Barb, Sorry to hear about your Parlour Palm............
Have a couple neglected ones in a dark corner near the back of the GH, noticed a flash of red today, checked it out and found they have been setting seed all this time

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:12 pm

I'll enjoy seeing YOURS, so I wasn't sad when mine croaked. My little beggar was never really robust anyway.

The joy of discovery in a crowded GH

Looks like a blueberry...something the cats would love to play with!

I didn't realize the stems went that reddish, almost woody looking.

Maybe there are some babies coming, without help from your pollinating brush.
Barb

Gartem · Post by **Gartem** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:18 pm

Hello everyone. I new, on this grate forum.
It's my Chamaedorea elegans, female plant

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:08 pm

Welcome to the forum, Gartem.

Beautiful photo of your Chamaedorea.

Thanks also for the Flickr link.
I enjoyed looking at your cactus, orchid, cycad, palm and botanical garden pictures.
Great photography!

Barb

Gartem · Post by **Gartem** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:30 am

Thank you very much. Over time, buy, and the male plant, and will pollinate, interesting experience for their reproduction.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:54 pm

Gartem, Hello and Welcome !

Nice photos, I also enjoyed looking through your Flickr album

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:12 pm

A few updated photos, need to start figuring out which is male/female.

Some in the back of the GH,

Couple more in a aquatic setting,

No problems with over watering here

Steve

Gartem · Post by **Gartem** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:16 am

In the second photo seems to me that left the male plant.
And what palm in the water?

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:09 am

The fully submerged ones are Cat Palms, (Chamaedorea cataractarum), They have been growing like that for 3-4 years now. Here's the top half,

Thanks for helping with the ID!

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:50 am

Steve, those two orange thingies...lights?

Or have the fish grown that much?
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:06 am

Barb, Those are the fish, maybe I need to put them on a diet

I'm not heating the water at all this winter, the
Chamaedoreas are still growing in 45F-50F temps.

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:22 am

Holy cow, those fish have grown

they obviously love their palm-filled home in the tropics...
Barb

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:56 pm

Must be nice to sit in there on a winter day!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:00 pm

Jim, it sure is

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:29 pm

Just noticed the Chamaedorea metallica is starting to flower.

Steve

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:50 pm

Steve,
thanks for the Chameadora photos. My only one is a C. radicalis that grows great. I'd like to get some more, and generally learn more about this genus.
--Erik

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:14 pm

Erik, They are tough Palms, I leave mine in a dark corner, forget about them, and they thrive

Have some more photos of the Parlour Palms over here, (in the Palmae set)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/steveks/

Steve

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:23 pm

Tough is what I need, as I get busy or travel and my plants have to take care of themselves.
My C. radicalis lives in a put. It is outdoors April to October in afternoon shade and thrives despite being ignored. The rest of the year it is indoors in a rather cold room.
I'd like to try more Chameadora. Do you start from seed? Buy them?

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:13 pm

I've started Chamaedorea tepejilote and C. seifrizii from seed.
The C. metallica came from eBay, in my opinion, these are one of the hardiest & most under rated of the genus.

The Cat & Parlour Palms all came from the local WalMart

You can usually find 10-20 Parlour Palm seedlings in a 3" pot. The Cat Palms are larger, and usually rootbound in 2-3 gallon containers.

Steve

TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:31 pm

I sometimes feel as if my palm purchases from HD and Walmart are "rescues." The local HD, for example, left their Washies, Ch. humilis and Rhaphis palms outdoors during the January cold, with lows in the lower single digits and highs in the teens(oF) for a few days. Not just a few but a LOT of them. I politely asked the dept. manager about this and she said they didn't have room for them indoors, "But it was a protected microclimate here so we thought they'd be alright. Guess they weren't."
Back to Chameadora metallica, how "hardy" do you think it is? I try to only keep plants in pots for the patio that are hardy into USDA zone 9 (lows in the 20s oF) as we get that weather on occasion even in October and April, interspersed with much warmer temps. My C. radicalis is so tough it can deal with that.
--Erik

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:58 am

That's a shame, most of these store personnel seem to have no clue as the cultural requirements of anything they sell.
(The "Tropical Foliage", and other generic tags aren't much help either

How did those Palms look after that? Any survivors?

Here's some info on C. mettalica,

Hardiness: USDA Zones 9 - 12. Mature and established plants have been reported to tolerate temperatures down to 28ºF (-2.2ºC) for four days with no leaf damage. They will not survive temperatures below about 20ºF (-6.7ºC), though.

http://www.floridata.com/ref/C/cham_met.cfm

Steve

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