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Look at this guy's Palm pics...some at -19 C

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:36 pm
by lucky1
Too bad it's not in English but the pics blew me away.

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=h ... %26hl%3Den

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:17 am
by Alchris
The pics are great.

What language? I am guessing Russian or a similar language.

I am surprised that the Sabal minor is only shown to tolerate -20 C.

Allen

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:22 am
by turtile
Those pictures are stolen. I know who took both of the Trachycarpus pictures - they are both growing in NC. The one on the left is the "Greensboro" form.

The Sabal Minor picture is really a Sabal sp. Birmingham growing in NC as well. (I've seen it in person)

http://www.garysnursery.com/Tempphotos.html
http://www.garysnursery.com/SabalBirmingham.html
http://hardypalm.50megs.com/

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:42 pm
by lucky1
turtile, Oh no! I'm so sorry to have provided that link! :oops: I had no idea they were stolen!
So I guess we cannot trust the accuracy either of the Centigrade "lows" these palms survived.

Allen, Sabal minors can stand LOWER than -20 C ??? :shock:

So much for my finding interesting links :oops:
Barb

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:16 pm
by Barrie
"Allen, Sabal minors can stand LOWER than -20 C ???

Some web-sites are full of hype and true growing conditions are embelished. If the claims of some sites where true, there'd be palms growing all over the lower 48 and southern Canada too!

Cheers, Barrie.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:55 pm
by turtile
Sabal are hardier with more summer heat. So a Sabal in British Columbia, will not be able to tolerate temperatures as low as one growing Kansas (one "McCurtain" was said to survive -24F/-31C in Wichita, although the reading was most likely from a different location) Most people rate Sabal Minor hardy to -11/-24C out in the open without any form of protection.

Like Barry said, true growing conditions are usually never taken into consideration. Its impossible to determine a minimum low due to the wide amount of factors.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:42 pm
by lucky1
turtile, good to know, thanks. Impressive.
Barrie, "...and there'd be palms growing all over..." You're right of course.
Just me wishing it were true.
Barb