My Valencia Orange Findings

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My Valencia Orange Findings

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Hopefully now that I am posting this, the fruits will not fall off and make an A $ $ out of me. But I thought I would post my findings in hopes that it might help others.
In the 5-6 years prior to this, I have boughten orange trees while in Florida. All had fruit already on them. However I could never get fruit from them MYSELF. After picking the last fruit, they never rewarded me with another one. In zone 5, of coarse I had to bring in the Orange trees inside from the Winters. I THOUGHT I was doing the right thing by putting them in a bright spot by a window. I THOUGHT the sun and the warm temps would be great for them. However, EVERY YEAR, they would drop every last one of the leafs and then in the spring grow new LIMBS and flowers, but never would hold fruit past a pea size.
While reading on a citrus board that I can not now find for the life of me :oops: I found that Oranges actually need a "cooling off". I read that what I was doing was the exact OPPOSITE of what us cold zoners are supposed to do.
I read that I needed to put the tree in the unheated garageand totally leave it alone, only watering maybe once a month if that much even. All thou I thought it sounded stupid, after losing so many other trees, I thought what the heck. So I put it in my unheated garage and forgot about it. In December I checked on it to see if I needed to water it. I saw that where usually by December, I had lost about 20 leaves, this time I had lost...ZERO. So I watered sparingly. In February I once again checked and usually I would have only about 10 leaves still on the tree, now I still had a tree full of leaves. By the end of Feb. I had lost FIVE leaves. So in March I set the tree outside and put my usual cow manure on it and within two weeks I was seeing new leaves and branches and flowers. However there was more than usual compared to other trees I had. Also, the flowers that fell revealed fruits that were staying on longer. And now longer has turned into the by far the biggest beginning oranges I have EVER gotten.
So for you Orange growers in cold zones like me, give this a try this Winter and see. Here is a pic of mine today (6/26). Kinda hard to see all the fruits but they are there. The largest one is about the size of a Ping Pong ball.
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Wes the reason your tree was dropping its leaves when it was in the house was because you didn't supply bottom heat. Its call WLD (Winter leaf drop). When you left it in the garage with lower light, the roots don't have to function like they do when the leaves are in direct sunlight... Citrus roots do not function below 55 F. When the plant is in the house in the winter the soil temp will drop to 55 or below even if you keep the house temps @ 60 - 70....

Valencia is not the best citrus for your zone as it ripens in Feb - Mar. You should try a Satsuma mandarin or early Navel which ripen before December.
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Post by Kansas »

Very informative. Thanks.
So, what should I do to save the fruit on the tree come Winter? Keep it in the sun spot in the garage and supply bottom heat?
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You will want to keep it in a warm place with bottom heat. The problem with Valencia & most oranges is they need heat to build up the sugars. Most oranges that are grown in cool locations have a off flavor... Same with Grapefruit. If they don't get the proper heat the taste is bland.
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Wanted to update the pic.

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Lookin' good! I guess the race is on now. Will the fruit ripen or will the cool weather be the winner?
Cheers, Barrie.
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Wes it looks great. Now you just need to give it as much heat as possible.

Here some of my stuff today. Raining but... These are all in the ground except the variegated Ponderosa lemon.

Navel Orange

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Meyer lemons. I have the potted palm holding them up off the ground

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Variegated Ponderosa lemons

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Yuzu's

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Cluster of Satsumas

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Almost forgot.... My Valencia :wink:

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SO if I keep it in bright, unfiltered sun, water every day until maybe November (greenhouse Oct. & Nov.), then, bring it inside and put on a heat pad and leave in sunny spot, I should be alright??
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Yes. Keep the soil temp between 70 - 80 F. They should ripen in Feb - Mar.
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Laaz ~ Great collection and Photos!
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Post by Kansas »

Steve, that Key Lime you gave me last time is not producing flowers or fruit, but it IS looking full and really pretty. I plan on giving it some citrus spikes this next Spring to see if we can get fruit off it. Right now it is really really full of new leaves and branches.
Thanks again!
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