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Yeah, I'm hoping that if I am able to give it some good protection over the next couple of winters it won't go into decline. If it's still alive in a couple of years, then I think I will call it a success

Excellent! I just planted another sibling from that palm. They seem tougher than the first 'McCurtain' that I planted...

Here's a blurry (but updated) shot of my original T. fortunei:

Cameron do you keep your seedlings outside during the winter? Just wondering I have never tried overwintering seedlings outdoors I was afraid they wouldn't make it.

Bryce, these seedlings have been planted out since they were just a bit bigger than strap-leaved seedlings. They were sent to me by Paul, who collected the seed from some trees in BC (Victoria?). I put mulch and leaves over them, and cover the whole thing with recycling bags. I planted seven seedlings originally, and the two weakest ones died after being stepped on a few times This will be their 4th winter in the ground.

They're certainly doing well, Cameron.

Planning on moving that fence?

Barb

Barb, that depends if they keep doing so well or not!

if they keep doing so well

Nothing will stop them now, Cameron.

...and they'll move the fence for you.

Barb

Can you see my little Sabal McCurtain?

The little guy in the lower right hand corner(a.k.a)"Little Larrick",next to the yellow moss roses flowers.....

Just putting out his first dived leaf



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Nice shot! My "McCurtain" is around the same size!

The S. minor "McCurtain" has grown around 1.5 fronds this season :

Hi Cameron,

your Sabal grew 1.5 leaves?? Boy I must have a black thumb with Sabals. All mine grow like snails.

I dug out my S. minor which was buried with the pot in the ground. If you watch carefully, you see how long roots it grew. I had to repot it into larger pot. It was grown from seed, but unfortunately they came from California, so I'm not hoping this one would be a survivor in future. So far he's been indoor during winters.


It's amazing how your small sabals survived outside!

Thanks! Marceli, you likely have more summer heat than I do, so hopefully you will have some good luck with that S. minor!

Here's how much my Sabal minor grew this year............warning...........a disturbing photo for gardeners.

The spear tip was about 3/4" (1.5cm) lower in the spring.

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Sabals are always pain in the *$%# in cooler areas If mine survives winter on balcony (which mght be difficult) I'm gonna place it under some polytunnel to keep it hot next season. Even my R. hystrix grows faster.

Tim, I have one observation. I had a tough time growing ANY plant in one section of my garden and this included, one year, a Sabal texensis brazoria. They were growing too slow and were drying up. Delosperma was planted all around them. Delosperma has carrot-like succulent roots, and were STEALING all the water in the area!! I have since replaced the last palm with a Yucca thompsoniana (figured it could handle dryness a bit better) and pared back the delosperma.
Oddly enough, the last palm, the S. x brazoria, I dug up in May 2012 was not fully dead, only all its leaves and stem. It is still not dead, and I have it potted indoors with hopes it will return with vigor.

I guess my long-winded point is this: succulent-root plants planted by palms can suck the soil dry.

Good luck with new growth in 2013!