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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:38 pm
by Dean W.
Nice photos you all!
Dean
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:22 am
by Knnn
Great photos!
Barb,
Good to see yours are starting up

few more here are showing signs of life,
Steve
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:52 am
by lucky1
Steve, great photography, especially that 4th pic.
I've gotta ask: there's not one weed in any of your pots (plants older than 1 year). How do you manage that?
Barb
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:11 am
by Knnn
Barb, I have my share of weeds,
End up pulling them out, ( sooner or later

, I view them as a good indicator of soil moisture levels.
I've got all sorts of things growing along with the Cycads this year
Steve
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:46 am
by Dean W.
Hey Steve,
In the forth picture what is that growth called?
Dean
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:59 am
by lucky1
Congrats on having one weed.
I can always say I'm in nitrogen-fixing mode.
That lovely vine will take over your GH
Barb
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:14 am
by Knnn
Barb, around here, half my containers are growing wheat by the end of the season
Dean,
# 1 & 2 ~
Zamia furfuracea
#3 ~
Encephalartos natalensis
#4 & 5 ~
Encephalartos gratus, Start of a second frond & some caudex bulding.
#6 ~ Cycas sp. "Wilailak"
Steve
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:22 am
by Dean W.
Steve,
Cool, Thanks!
Dean
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:11 am
by lucky1
Dioon spinulosum moving along.
Barb
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:10 am
by Knnn
Barb, great close up!
How are the rest of your Cycads doing?
Steve
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:56 pm
by Kansas
Here are my two cycads that are flushing.
Sorry for the clutter in the Tait pic. It's 20 degrees with snow blowing right now and I am NOT into clearing the greenhouse right now!!
Taitungensis. 4 Leaf flush.
Nova Waililik. 2 leaf flush just starting out.

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:24 pm
by lucky1
Thanks Steve; the other cycads are showing only a hint of moving.
Wes nice strong flush.
When did you put manure on it?
Barb
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:35 pm
by Kansas
Actually I those flushes are with manure from last year. Now with these two fast growers, I will add manure in about a month or so when I can leave the greenhouse open and get some rain on the manure and let it settle in.
With the way I put them out in my landscape, I need a good flush the day I put them out, then I like them to flush in June or July again.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:46 pm
by lucky1
Wes,
So the manure goes on after the first flush then rain on it produces two more flushes in a season.
Now I got it
Spring can't be far...rotten weather has to end some time.
Greenhouses are supposed to be cluttered
Barb
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:08 pm
by Kansas
50's today so I got to trim that Fortunei in the background. Also was able to throw some old dead stuff out and free up some sun light thru so some of the understory trees could start getting some nice light.
I MIGHT have a new flush on a young Tait also but we will see.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 am
by Knnn
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:32 pm
by Kansas
First off, Lucky, I am anxiuosly awaiting an update pic of that Spinulosum leaf!!!!!!!!!
Now here is an update on the two I posted earlier in the thread, plus a Cardboard seedling putting out a leaf....
This is the Cardboard. Little fuzzy, but you can tell the start...
This is the Wailiak with a two leaf flush. BTW, this is also the Willy that split the caudex over Winter to allow for growth around. There is VERY much noticable growth in the fatness of the trunk on this since the split. I would dare to say it has almost doubled in girth in 2 months. Here is also it's two leaf flush...
This is the Taitungensis. The trunk has put on about 4"-5" of length and put out this 4 leaf flush...

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:45 pm
by lucky1
Steve, man oh man, 15 fronds...
Wes, nice very nice. Gotta get me some manure. I've been "eyeing" a horse across the fence
Nice strong stem on that baby cardboard.
Both Steve's and Wes' have such tall growth, looks great.
Have been holding off, hoping I'd get more than one frond, but nope, that's all. Darn!
Now a few days later, it looks weak, like it's about to flop. What the heck?
In a week or so hope to have pics of some movement on my Z.picta and Z.vasquezii, D.edule...
Barb
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:50 am
by Kansas
Barb, if you think that leaf looks like it will flop over, try putting the leaf up against a wall for support while it grows. Then after a month or so, SLOWLY take away from the wall and see if it is stronger. I had a Taitungensis leaf that was HUGE and weighed way too much on the top. It bent it completly down. I tried this and amazingly it is stronger than ever after letting it harden off.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:04 pm
by Knnn
Wes, Everything looks good!
The Cycas sp. "Wilailak" seem to be taking off, here's one of mine.
Barb,
Your Dioon leaf will harden off in a few weeks and be fine. Try to make sure it is not bunched up against anything, etc.
( once it hardens off, that will be it's final shape )
I did quit counting fronds on this one.......... ( at least 15
The other
Zamia floridana is starting up too,
Another through the window photo of a
Encephalartos natalensis new frond,
Steve
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:10 pm
by Kansas
INCREDABLE!!! Steve. Those cycads LOVE being next to that South facing wall. Seems to have warmed up the soil and exploded with energized roots.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:01 pm
by lucky1
Wes and Steve, thanks for the advice.
The leaf looks quite a bit weaker than when it first emerged, so I'll keep an eye on it.
It's a paler shade of green than last week, too.
Need a tad more fertilizer??
Man, look at the growth on yours.
You folks with your wonderful 15 (and more) leaves
I'm embarrassed to be worried about my ONE and only Spinulosum leaf.
You still can't get through that greenhouse, can you Steve?
Barb
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:12 am
by Knnn
Wes,
I'm waiting to see what this one does, it didn't grow much last year, but has about doubled the caudex size over the Winter.
Barb,
Plenty of room left! you were asking about the straps on the shelves?
Bad things would happen without them
Steve
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:21 pm
by lucky1
This'll be some plant to watch when the caudex doubles each year.
Barb
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:21 pm
by Knnn
Barb,
How is your D.spinulosum fairing?
I think this one is done for now?
And a couple misc. photos,
Steve
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:25 am
by lucky1
Steve, robust growth on yours.
Mine no longer looks like it's wilting.
Thanks for the tip to increase water at this stage.
Will have to get a new pic...the new leaf looks huge compared to last year's
Still very pale in colour though.
Barb
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:36 pm
by Knnn
With Z.furfuracea, I've noticed the leaves start out white and grow fast, usually takes a couple weeks for them to color up.
These ones are just about hardened off, they are just starting to turn a nice color.
Steve
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:49 pm
by lucky1
Nice cardboard palm, Steve.
Seems I'm leery of over-fertilizing, yet cycads generally are heavy feeders.
They just look so delicate, I suppose.
Barb
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:17 pm
by Knnn
Barb, Things started growing this year before I had a chance to put any fertilizer down, warm temps in the GH, and longer days is all it takes
Did find some Osmocote 4 month fertilizer on sale for $1.99 this Winter, so I spread some of that around, more or less just to keep up the nutrient levels in the containers that are not getting fresh soil this year.
Steve
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:39 pm
by lucky1
Good you've had an early start to warm GH temps.
I went to a couple of stores, they didn't stock Osmocote!
Barb
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:23 pm
by Knnn
I found some Ironite with minors last year that seemed to work ok,
Just noticed a couple Sagos starting a flush
Steve
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:12 pm
by lucky1
Man your stuff comes up early! Great GH conditions obviously.
Last year I found a dusty old box of "Fritted Trace Elements", and used it sparingly.
Didn't do any harm so will use it again this year.
All my cycads were repotted/potted last year so I think I'm ahead of the game.
Barb
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:39 pm
by virtualpalm
One of my E. horridus is flushing again, and I thought some of you might like to see it:
Jody

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:00 pm
by Kansas
Jody, as a LONG TIME member of this group, I think I can speak for everybody when I ask you to PLEASE allow us to see the flushes in all your cycad/dioon/encephs/etc.
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:10 am
by taylor
Very nice flushes everyone. Right now, only my big Taitungensis seems to be flushing. I'd say that is a pretty good start to the season...

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:55 am
by lucky1
Ditto kansas' sentiments. Love that color.
Maybe Todd will post his horridus pic soon.
Barb
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:33 pm
by lucky1
The Dioon spinulosum leaf has finally stopped growing...it's huge compared to last year's
A little less wilted looking now that I've increased watering.
Barb
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:08 pm
by Knnn
Jody, Thanks for the photos! E. horridus is one I've been saving up for.
Taylor, Feel free to add some photos!
Barb, Looking good! That is one I still don't have, going to have to do something about that....lol
These
Zamia floridana have been growing non stop here, been fun to watch.
( no cones yet

, .......but there is always next year
Steve
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:11 am
by taylor
Hey Steve!
I'll add some pics as soon as it pushes out a little more! It is dang cold over here right now. Went from ~80F to ~40F in less than 2 hours.
It even sleeted this morning. NOT GOOD, since I just planted all the Musa out.
Lord help them... LOL
Taylor
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:50 pm
by Kansas
STeve, IF your Zamia ever do cone with a female, would you know how to pollinate them? Reason I ask is that I have a Zamia Pumila that has a two male cones and I would love to give them to you for pollination.