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End of season report from Oregon coast

Post by TerdalFarm » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:43 pm

This is a follow-up to my end-of-winter post on my Oregon coast palms:
http://www.palmsnorth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5574

In brief, I am starting a palm (etc.) garden at my parent's cabin on the northern Oregon coast, where I hope to live some decade. It is on a south-facing hillside about a kilometre from the Pacific ocean, and up about 300 meters above sea level. I was recently moved to the northern most tip of USDA zone 9, which led me to take foolish risks. :oops:

I was out there last week to check on the plants and to move potted tender plants inside. Per my plan, I do no winter protection at all. None. Zilch. No mulch, fungicide, cover etc. I want to limit the garden to plants that do not need any special care.

First photo, the view from the driveway, with a fire going (it was chilly, but above freezing); some potted plants visible along retaining wall (the lot is very steep):
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Post by TerdalFarm » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:46 pm

Detail of bed in front of cabin. Retaining wall on left, Hydrangea that is years old on right. In back is Chameadorea radicalis. Figured it would be a goner after the lows of ~15 oF in December, 2013, with no protection, but it was not fully defoliated, recovered, and even flowered over summer! :shock:

In foreground as Sabal minor I started from seed and of course they were unfazed. Two largish Sago palms (Cycas revoluta) were dead, dead, dead at end of winter.
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Post by TerdalFarm » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:48 pm

In the foreground is a new cycad, Dioon edule I planted in May to replace one of the dead sagos. Hope it performs better.

Here is a closer look at the Chameadorea radicalis that recovered:
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Front bank

Post by TerdalFarm » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:56 pm

This photo shows a planting bed I'm making in the front, on a steep bank. Right/upper is the street. Left/lower is the gravel driveway. The very steep bank in between faces south and gets winter sun; it is very well drained (and presumably of water-soluble nutrients). In the foreground are some small palms: thew two waggies, then Trithrinax brasiliensis (plants May 2014), then the Nikau palm. Rest are various fun plants from Cistus nursery. And assorted weeds.

:lol:

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Post by sashaeffer » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:18 pm

Very cool, will be anxious to see how they all progress in time.
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Post by TerdalFarm » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:07 pm

I was most astonished by the recovery of the Nikau or "shaving brush palm." When I first saw it in May, I assumed it was dead. Then, I saw some green, so I didn't pull it out. It grew some while I was there into June. I was gone until October and amazed at how much it had grown in one summer, starting from nothing:

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Post by DesertZone » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:03 pm

Thanks for the report. Will be looking forward to see how it progresses.
That must be one cool place to stay. 8)
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Post by TerdalFarm » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:22 pm

Cool is right. I hate Oklahoma Summer heat; there in Manzanita, I heat the cabin in Summer. :shock:

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Post by chadec » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:12 pm

Interesting assortment of palms. Cant wait to see what happens with em.

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Post by lucky1 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:44 pm

Erik how very cool that the Nikau and Chamaedorea made it...
Probably made you a betting man :lol:

The two waggies and Trithrinax are gorgeous, obviously love it there.
Sad that the Sagos died, but Sabals are among your favorite anyway.
My 2 sagos, that go inside in winter, always suffer in summer unless they get huge amounts of water.

Sorry I don't recall, but is the CIDP dead?

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Post by andym » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:16 pm

Most impressed with the the Nikau survival :D Not trying any Butias? The Sago Palms are good to -5C then its downhill all the way without protection :(
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Post by Paul Ont » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:25 pm

Man Erik, great spot there and a very interesting climate... Oh the possibilities!

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Post by TerdalFarm » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:10 pm

Andy,
Yes, I'm astonished by the Nikau survival and recovery!

might try a Butia in 2015. I tend to think of them as wanting more heat (hey, what palm doesn't!). I figure any palms you see growing along the English coast should work. Other suggestions?

Paul,
what are your possibilities? I can get a good assortment of plants at Cistus, also in Oregon.
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Post by TerdalFarm » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:12 pm

Barb,
I hadn't posted on CIDP as sad. Yes, dead. It had some green in May so I hoped it would recover but it didn't.

The Trithrinax is my first. I made it through that cold winter quite well, and recovered nicely over the Summer. :D
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Post by lucky1 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:35 pm

I would've guessed CIDP making it over the Trithrinax, but hey you proved otherwise.

The Waggies will be nothing short of stunning this time next year.

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End of "winter" report

Post by TerdalFarm » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:41 pm

Back here.

Wow, what difference a year makes. :lol:

This winter? Warm, not even a frost. All winter! Contrast that with a record low for the day in early December, 2013. :shock:

All palms are looking great and growing. Even the super tender shaving brush palm is pushing a spear. Chamadorea radicalis trying to bloom. Air temps up to 67 oF this afternoon! :D

But, dry. Will water and fertilize tomorrow. And take some pics.

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Post by hardyjim » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:08 am

Cool spot...the cabin looks well maintained.
Looks like a nice Waggie in there as well.
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Post by TerdalFarm » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:06 pm

A couple waggies, dug up and moved from Oklahoma in 2013. They came through last winter's record cold just fine, of course.
And pushing spears now!

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