google srteet views after the "big freeze"

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:06 pm

Yip, that was the winter.

I would've never guessed this street was in El Paso TX. Lots of water use here!
https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.837256,- ... 63,,0,8.12

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:58 pm

Does not look like El Paso, but it is.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.842698,- ... 37,,0,3.91

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:16 pm

Holy cow, El Paso's vegetation looks like it could be closer to Oregon's.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:46 am

Douglas AZ, golden barrels that survived. I bet they were covered.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.348561,- ... 8,,3,12.74

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:26 am

Any guess? Nolina?
https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.513435,- ... 12,,2,4.65

andym · Post by **andym** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:01 pm

Looks like it Aaron but what? Could be Matapensis... gets confusing

Up just past the blue wagon are another two Nolinas... young ones probably the same species. I like the hesperaloes which are in flower.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:35 pm

I'd be happy in a tent on this property.

Sorry to derail the serious topic...but OMG isn't this GREAT??????

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:11 pm

Love it! That is when and how grass with a desert-scape looks good. One of the driest deserts in North america and look at all the grass.
Water bills are not cheap there. money, money, money...but I like it!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:48 pm

I'm actually surprised that people don't install that green turf carpet (instead of real grass).
Looks good from a distance, and no water required.

The health of those palms is wonderful.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:55 pm

lucky1 wrote:I'm actually surprised that people don't install that green turf carpet (instead of real grass).
Looks good from a distance, and no water required.

The health of those palms is wonderful.

Barb

I wonder the same thing. it's expense, but I would think they could afford it.
I've seen it up close and it looks just like real grass.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:15 pm

Butiacapitata

https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.516947,- ... .91,,0,0.4

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:21 pm

sat pic was May 2011, previous winter almost did them in.
Think they'll make it?

Just think how well they would've done in Palm Desert...

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:55 pm

I'm sure they are fine.

I don't think they ever have any bad freeze back in the palm desert. I have been there however in late Dec. when the palm desert got down in the 10'sF like 18F where I was at.
Maybe as cold as 5-0F in the higher desert areas (Cali). It even got down to 26F in Whittier California, but I did not see any damage there.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:05 am

don't think they ever have any bad freeze back in the palm desert

From the look of their palms, I agree.
On many "streets", everything looks pristine and most have some age.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:00 pm

lucky1 wrote:green turf carpet (instead of real grass).
Looks good from a distance, and no water required.

Barb

I did find one with fake grass and it looked good (same neighborhood).

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:06 pm

Fake grass looks good, when in small areas.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Indian+W ... ,,0,-13.48

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:16 pm

I keep getting stuck on all the beautifully landscaped roads.
Never get very far.
I could look at this all day long.

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lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:19 pm

re your last post, Aaron, that is so beautiful.
I prefer that to real grass in that dry environment.
Looks as good as the real thing, maybe better.

Good design (curb appeal) evident there.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:19 pm

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Indian+W ... 88,,2,6.25

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:21 pm

hey we both posted at 7:10.

re the link:

They must've known WHO they were "saluting".

Barb

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:23 pm

I guess not everyone is a fan of google maps.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:58 pm

Barb, now you got me looking all over the palm desert.

I did find some frostbite plants, mostly queen palms.
They did have 2 bad cold spells that winter, of which would be a normal winter low for my place in AZ.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:22 pm

Even the palms in Austin TX got hit hard that winter.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Indian+W ... 51,,1,2.64

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:03 pm

did find some frostbite plants, mostly queen palms

A bit too far north for Queen palms, IMO.

would be a normal winter low for my place in AZ

But what you'd plant would sail through those two lows.

Ugh...those Austin palms look so sad, despite a tiny sign of life.
Look petrified.

I'm going back to Palm Desert.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:13 pm

lucky1 wrote:
did find some frostbite plants, mostly queen palms
A bit too far north for Queen palms, IMO.

would be a normal winter low for my place in AZ
But what you'd plant would sail through those two lows.

Ugh...those Austin palms look so sad, despite a tiny sign of life.
Look petrified.

I'm going back to Palm Desert.

Barb

The frost burnt queens were in the Palm Desert, just minor leaf burn. if I see them again, I will post a pic.

Even the Palm Desert it is not rare to see lows in the upper teens and low 20's,
but does not last long and has no real effects that I have seen...well a papaya tree did sad after 18f.

My place in AZ would normally see lows in the low to upper teens, but not rare for temps to spike into the singles digits.
So long term palms, that I have seen come back with flying colors, even though the leaves fell off (only took a season for the palms to look like it never happened)
Filifera, CIDP, Robusta, Majool date, Med fans, trachies, Sables, and Butiacapitata.
Some Queens might live through a normal winter low, butt they would always die back in winter there. I seen none planted comeback there after the 2011 freeze.

Me too, headed back to the Palm Desert.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:24 pm

Here's a yard that came back from -4F in Las Cruses NM
I want seed from that big Trichocereus tersheckii
http://dryheatblog.files.wordpress.com/ ... -22sml.jpg

Link:
http://dryheatblog.wordpress.com/2013/1 ... #more-1242

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:53 pm

Here's a burnt agave in austin
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Indian+W ... 51,,1,2.64

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:55 pm

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Indian+W ... 51,,1,2.64

Is this a sabal louisiana? It's looking well.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:13 pm

Filifera, CIDP, Robusta, Majool date, Med fans, trachies, Sables, and Butiacapitata.

That's all the species anyone who loves palms would probably want anyway.
Me especially.
The aerials of golf course properties show a lot of date palms, which is wonderful.
Their blue color looks so good in the desert, same with the Butias.

Nice to see properties that mix it up with Agaves too.

Surprised at the low temps they can get but it's obviously not for 3 or 4 months

Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:17 pm

yard that came back from -4F in Las Cruses NM

wow, that's gorgeous!~

Jeff, I think your links bombed, didn't see agave or sabal?

Barb

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:16 pm

Nice yuccas here in Catalina Hills

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Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:47 pm

lucky1 wrote:Nice yuccas here in Catalina Hills

Barb

Dasylirion wheeleri

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:03 pm

lucky1 wrote:
yard that came back from -4F in Las Cruses NM
wow, that's gorgeous!~

Jeff, I think your links bombed, didn't see agave or sabal?

Barb

sorry, I forgot you can't just copy and paste the origional address

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:02 pm

sorry, I forgot you can't just copy and paste the origional address

It even bombs for us who think we've got it down pat, Jeff

Dasylirion wheeleri icon_smile.gif

ha ha, Aaron, you'll be suggesting an eye exam for me next.
And I do need to have one.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:28 pm

Tucson, 2011 winter burn. Normally a zone 9-9b
https://maps.google.com/?ll=32.304818,- ... 53,,1,2.33

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:00 am

Ouch, some of the neighbors' CIDPs look much better.
I love the metal gates and walled yards.

My computer's bombing out...

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DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:28 am

lucky1 wrote:
That's all the species anyone who loves palms would probably want anyway.
Me especially.

Barb

Barb here is a pic of a place that has winters very much like my place in AZ (my place would normally be warmer in the winter)
I think I'm a half zone warmer.

All these palms froze back that winter also, this is later that summer.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=36.913838,- ... 7,,1,-0.81

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:05 am

Sad that they would've been burnt.
Such a beautiful job landscaping.

Curious what would've bent palm trunks to such a degree. Wind maybe?

Great that your place is 1/2 zone warmer.
Just think of what you'll be able to grow...10 foot tall Century Agaves are probably tops on your list.
But you're gonna have to "up" your palms list.

Barb

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:39 pm

lucky1 wrote: Curious what would've bent palm trunks to such a degree. Wind maybe?

Just think of what you'll be able to grow...10 foot tall Century Agaves are probably tops on your list.

Barb

The palms are grown that way (sold). They take like a 10 tall palm, dig it up and than replant it at an angle,
wait and than replant them again, and so makes the bend(s). Robusta's always try and grow straight up.
I think they give them a bend too give a more tropical look.

You know I will try and plant the biggest agave I can grow.

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:43 am

palms are grown that way (sold). They take like a 10 tall palm, dig it up and than replant it at an angle,
wait and than replant them again, and so makes the bend(s).

That's sure labor-intensive.
But they probably get extra $.

Barb

PalmsNorth.com

google srteet views after the "big freeze"

just could N O T get past this place