Do you see what I see? follow up of not sure post.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:48 am

They came on YAY!

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Judging by the limited amount of black block strands,I would guess it was around 24F in the enclosure...at least when it was opened.

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Appears the unheated Cycad is ok too.

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Very possible these are still frozen 0:

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T.Martianus looks good however,the remote temp sensor was laying on top of a C-7 bulb...possible it was more than a little off....but I think
20ish may have been as cold as these plants saw.

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TerdalFarm · Post by **TerdalFarm** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:01 am

Glad to see them looking fine.

As for LED lights, no, not a fan for this purpose. Personally, I have more confidence in the heat tape. Then, incandescent C9 w/ thermocube.

I would REALLY like to see that Washy come through this winter well!

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:58 am

Erik found it ok!-lol

Heat tape 30-50 $$$$
a strand of lights???? $6.99 nuf said

ok
one more thing...30 palms,just no way to use that much heat tape.

Difference between spending $1000 to heat or $50.

Barb

I hope you find this post now

miketropic · Post by **miketropic** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:11 pm

how long do you plan to leave those americanas open like that?

Okanagan desert-palms · Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:52 pm

Jim nice pics. How much heat do the rope lights give off?

John

Paul Ont · Post by **Paul Ont** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:32 am

What's all that white stuff on the ground?

I found a ton of the older incandescent mini-lights for 2 bucks a pop at the xmas store in Watertown NY. Needless to say I bought them out!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:29 am

Jim,
Took me ONLY 7 days to find it.

Thank goodness all looks fine.

I can't risk LED use for palms here in Canada, but glad it appears to be working for you.

Wiki says: "LED rope lights require far less energy than incandescent rope lights and generate comparatively less heat. LED bulbs use about 1 watt per foot in power while a traditional rope light uses close to 3 watts of light per." From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_rope_light
By comparatively, I think they mean the ratio of wattage between the two types is related proportionately to the drop in heat output (incandescent = metal filament).

And: "Because LEDs emit less heat than incandescent bulbs, they are an energy-efficient technology for uses such as in freezers and refrigerators. However, because they emit little heat, ice and snow may build up on the LED light fixture in colder climates." From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode

found a ton of the older incandescent mini-lights for 2 bucks a pop

Good...I never thought to look in those stores, Paul.
As supplies disappear, we could always ask our American friends to mail us some incandescent lights

Since THEIR government still lets people decide on their own what kinds of lights to use.

Yeah, water line heat tapes are really expensive.
I think my 30-footer cost $48...expensive considering I'm not using it at all.

Freaking cold here again this morning... :verycold:

Barb

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:09 pm

beautiful agave you have! how do you protect? Is that under the large plastic enclosure i have seen in your pics before?

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:12 am

Don't have the resources or watts to cover those Agave,they are dug up each year=inside the house now.

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:39 am

hardyjim wrote:Don't have the resources or watts to cover those Agave,they are dug up each year=inside the house now.

gotcha, they are beauties!!

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:20 am

Thanks...its cool too have the stuff inside,having your south living room
window framed by a 6' Madagascar palm on one side and a near 7' Cereus cactus
is really nice to come out to on a sunny morning,a little inside and outside group!

sidpook · Post by **sidpook** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:02 pm

hardyjim wrote:Thanks...its cool too have the stuff inside,having your south living room
window framed by a 6' Madagascar palm on one side and a near 7' Cereus cactus
is really nice to come out to on a sunny morning,a little inside and outside group!

sweet!!!!

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:44 pm

window framed by a 6' Madagascar palm on one side and a near 7' Cereus cactus

Cheaper than a vacation down south.

Barb