Yuccas and Palms update

[lucky1]

Some updated photos:

2 Washingtonia filifera flanking 3 Yucca rostrata sapphire skies.

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Incredible growth of the base/rosette this year, getting really wide on all three:

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2 Yucca Big Mama from Tim in foreground, didn't get around to planting them. At rear is a 3-year old seedling (yup...) of y.rostrata, although the leaves look too wide to be rostrata-labelled seed. The green seedling is a Phoenix palm.

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Here's the "leaner" Washingtonia filifera that outgrew its fungus from last winter. Too bad it's going to end up laying down on the lawn:

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Crazy angle of the spear...

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This one's growing straight:

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Unidentified yucca in the ground since March:

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The little Brahea armata planted at the same time...

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Livistonia chilensis:

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2 Bismarckia nobilis strap seedlings foreground, Nannorhops arabica silver seedlings:

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2 T.princeps (seed from Garry) showing their nice horizontal whorls, versus the T. tesan behind (seedling from Cameron):

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Didn't expect this Cyrtostachys renda seedling to survive summer being neglected:

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At left, 3 Jubaea chilensis "blue" seedlings, although I don't see a hint of blue on any of them:

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These Nannorhops arabica (silver) are even more blue than B. armata. Stunning color:

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Here's the Big Boy around the corner: T.fortunei. Carpenter said "ain't gonna fit in the palm hut".

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No sign of him slowing down either:

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Some more: cactus topping out at 9 feet:

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Cordyline red star has done well this summer, despite sun-burned leaves.

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Thanks for looking!
Barb

EDIT: added this CIDP, looks like it's in trouble. Roots likely got too hot in our 7 week heatwave this summer.

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[TimMAz6]

Great update Barb.

Your Y. rostratas look very happy. Perhaps we'll start to see some trunk on them next season?

I love your Washingtonias..........great looking palms.........I'm glad they survived your winter.........great job protecting.

That Y. rostrata seedling is VERY nice with it's wide, blue leaves. I'm thinking it's Yucca pallida but who knows it could be some crazy hybrid......how cool would that be?

So what's Hubby going to do with Big Boy?............I hope he's planning something cause winter's coming fast.

[seedscanada]

Barb, great update.
Those arabicas and silvers are gunna be amazing! The jubaeas are so cute... the last of mine just perished after limping along for 1.5 years .
Your CIDP should do fine if infused with gallons of water daily, and triple mix topped over the last few weeks of summer. Holes in the bottom of the can it is in?

[lucky1]

Thanks you guys.

Tim, yup, I've looked for ANY sign of a trunk forming on those 3 rostratas.
Not a sign. Looks like they want to get wider and wider at the base, crowding out the gravel.

Yup, that one very blue, wide-leafed yucca is interesting. Thanks for the pallida hint.
Re Big Boy not fitting into the hut, H said "just bend the top over to make it fit". (ahem!)

Adam,
Yup, the CIDP can has drain holes, will water the hell out of it.
I almost fell off my chair the other day when H said "you should plant it!!!!!" (as in: in the ground!)
Sheesh...we'd need a backhoe.



Barb

[DesertZone]

The growth on those yuccas look great, sould start trunking soon.

[lucky1]

Thanks Aaron, hope you're right.
This'll be their 3rd winter in the ground.

Can't wait until they look like the one you posted recently with the fellow beside it.

Barb

[DesertZone]

Thanks Aaron, hope you're right.
This'll be their 3rd winter in the ground.

Can't wait until they look like the one you posted recently with the fellow beside it.

Barb

I think so, mine is not much older in the ground and it is starting to grow a trunk.

[lucky1]

That'll be good to see, Aaron.

Wonder if a little bit of stress would create a trunk sooner.
i.e. too dry for example?

Patience has never been my strong suit.

Barb

[igor.glukhovtsev]

Dear Barb, your palms and yuccas look fabulous! You made it! I mean your summer drought.... I saw a golf court behind, didn't I? Is your house located in the middle?

[lucky1]

Thanks Igor...tough heat event here this year, a lot of stuff died from sheer neglect.
Just thinning the herd again.

house located in the middle

No I'd need to own a window shop

Barb

[TimMAz6]

Hey Barb....check out the Y. rostrata Rob of Tennessee found growing in Tennessee......

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[lucky1]

W O W Z E R S!!!!!!

That's incredibly beautiful.

Any idea as to age?

Barb

[TimMAz6]

Hi Barb,

Rob said they were about this size 2 year ago (see below). I hope you planned the rostrata would get that big.

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Mine has grown about 4 feet (1.2 m) of trunk in 9 years.

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[lucky1]

about this size 2 year ago

Funny, Tim.
Sheesh...won't need to pull the blinds in the years to come.
Probably shouldn't have planted 'em there then (darn!)

Yours grew THAT much in 9 years?
Holy crow.
Do you ever fertilize them?

I've heard folks say they don't need fertilizer so I've never applied any.

Barb

[DesertZone]

about this size 2 year ago

Funny, Tim.
Sheesh...won't need to pull the blinds in the years to come.
Probably shouldn't have planted 'em there then (darn!)

Barb

Just think of the awesome view you will have.

Your yucca look so good.

[TerdalFarm]

Great plants, Barb!

About the CIDP, mine was in a pot last summer at edge of parking lot (black asphalt) on west side of apartment building all last summer. Air temps at the nearest airport got to 114 oF (46 oC) out in country; had to be several degrees warmer ) in the city in an apartment parking lot. Bizzie was next to it, along with Y. rostrata. None suffered from that heat, but W did water the heck out of them (recall, I was on the Oregon coast, being smart and all). So, I think CIDP can handle extreme root temperatures, at least with copious water.

As for planting it, per H's suggestion: I did plant my CIDP, about that size. One the Oregon coast. Will never have to worry about its roots getting to warm.

[lucky1]

Good way to think about it.
Thanks Aaron.

Barb

[TimMAz6]

Hi Barb......no fertilizer on those rostratas.

Here's the same rostrata back in 2005.

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[lucky1]

no fertilizer on those rostratas.

nice to know that doing nothing is actually correct.

Great to have seen that "stretching up" year after year...how nice.

Barb

[TerdalFarm]

Oops. I use MG fertilizer on my Yucca. Should I stop?

[TimMAz6]

I don't fertilize my SW Yuccas since they are fertilized in nature..............If I don't have too....I won't.

[sidpook]

everything looks great Barb! I haven't been on the site in so long, so busy with back to school after a crazy summer, looking forward to chatting with you all soon!

[lucky1]

Michael,
From your temp sticker, looks like you've still got summer.

Barb

[sidpook]

Michael,
From your temp sticker, looks like you've still got summer.

Barb

still low 60's at night and mid to high 70's day time, will get cooler in october and frosts by november, freeze after that sometime....

[lucky1]

still low 60's at night

we've had three nights of 39F and 40F but daytime temps are very comfortable now.
Long range shows we're below freezing overnights last week in October.

So there's still time to plan protection...
Gets tougher every winter as stuff has grown.

Enjoy!
Barb

[sidpook]

still low 60's at night

we've had three nights of 39F and 40F but daytime temps are very comfortable now.
Long range shows we're below freezing overnights last week in October.

So there's still time to plan protection...
Gets tougher every winter as stuff has grown.

Enjoy!
Barb

yeah it does get harder as things do get biger. we actually ahd a few nights near 51 and it felt freezzing! lol

[lucky1]

a few nights near 51 and it felt freezzing! lol

I'll send you freezing in January.

[Henoh_Croatia]

Barb, great update.

Your Y. rostratas, T. fortunei 'Big Boy', Washingtonias etc... look very happy

Best regards,

Mario

[lucky1]

Thanks Mario.

I'm really surprised how much everything grew this year, except the CIDP which hasn't looked good for a couple of years.

Barb

[sidpook]

it's still too damned hot here Barb...Central air still on, and way to humid!!! Feels more like end August than beginning October

[sidpook]

finally opened up the wndows going to 53 here tonight yay!

[lucky1]

About the CIDP, mine was in a pot last summer at edge of parking lot (black asphalt) on west side of apartment building all last summer. Air temps at the nearest airport got to 114 oF (46 oC) out in country; had to be several degrees warmer icon_eek.gif ) in the city in an apartment parking lot. Bizzie was next to it, along with Y. rostrata. None suffered from that heat, but W did water the heck out of them (recall, I was on the Oregon coast, being smart and all). So, I think CIDP can handle extreme root temperatures, at least with copious water.

As for planting it, per H's suggestion: I did plant my CIDP, about that size. One the Oregon coast.

Erik, sorry I forgot to comment on your post.
Yes, water quantity is critical for CIDP because they can take full sun and brutal heat all day every day.
I stuck the CIDP w pot back into the cold building...I'd need a backhoe to dig a hole THAT size.
It'll be great to hear/see how your Oregon CIDP does.

Now that it's mid-Oct, I'm pleased we're having a nice warmish month.
Only hit -1C once or twice, since then it's milder, but very dry.

I wrapped my 2 Washies in 1 layer of 6ml vapor barrier, also the Brahea armata and little Chamaerops humilis var cerifera.
Then it got warm again.

Murphy's Law: if you want it to warm up in Fall, enclose your palms early.
Conversely...leaving them unprotected will lead to -10C earlier.

Barb

[Okanagan desert-palms]

Barb everything is looking great. Those Washy`s are sure starting to take off. Are you noticing any difference between the two of them now? W.filifera vs W.filibusta.



John

[lucky1]

Thanks John, it's time we saw photos of yours again!

I was amazed at the size of the leaves this year.
Twice as large as last year on both.

W.filifera vs W.filibusta.

I can't tell a difference.
They both have a similar quantity of filaments, and the trunks are the same colour and thickness.
And thorns are the same size and shape on both.

Can't remember what someone said...apparently one doesn't have thorns? is that filifera or robusta?
Is that true?

Yours must be massive by now!

Barb

[Okanagan desert-palms]

Barb maybe they are both W. filfera. I thought one was a W. filibusta. I`ve noticed the trunks are diferent colours when the are young. The filifera is a dull orange colour while the robusta trunk is a brighter reddish colour. The fronds are a deeper green on robusta and duller olive color on filifera. Both have thorns In any case they are doing very well for you. I`ve sold most of my bigger Washy`s this summer. I guess it`s time to do an update here.



John

[lucky1]

Thanks for the ID tips John.

Yup, time for an update of your stuff.
Looking forward to seeing it.

Barb

[DesertZone]

The one on the left looks like filifera, and the one on the right looks like filibusta does that sound right?