New Fronds..........

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:56 pm

I know it's still early in the season, but this little Zamia has been the first to show itself

Lori · Post by **Lori** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:23 am

Gorgeous -- is that a Zamia furfuracea?

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:21 pm

Hi Lori,
Z.floridana var." Palatka Giant" I loaded up on these during the past year

Have some outside that may have made it through the Winter, ( waiting for a new flush), If everything works out I'm going to try and establish a breeding colony of these.

Still waiting for the bigger things to start up, feel free to add any pics. you have

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:05 pm

Just curious as to if I could try some at my house Steve? I hate to be bold and ask for some, but I think my inter City climate and with a South facing wall, I think they might do really good.
When can you make a trip here to see my stuff & make an "Arnold's Greenhouse" run?

Lori · Post by **Lori** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:59 pm

Hi, Steve.
I just bought some Zamia floridana seeds also. How cold did it get during your last winter? I'll be interested to know if your plants survived.
Here is a photo of my new leaves...zamia furfuracea.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:30 am

Lori,
Thanks for the photo! That is a great close up ( I really need to think about upgrading my camera soon )

The lowest here this winter was -1F / -18C . They seemed to tolerate the cold, the worst of the damage occured after a warm day with an 1'+ of rain and then another hard freeze. This was my fault since I never put a cover over them.

I've learned from my mistakes and am still confident these will pull through........it's just the waiting now

Wes, (Kansas),

You should have at least one already, Think it was in the second batch that went your way

Steve

Lori · Post by **Lori** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:06 pm

Hi, Steve

Did you have them in pots or in the ground? Can you keep us posted on their survival? I have never heard of any cycad surviving those types of temps (minus 13 Celsius) and will be thrilled if that is so. That gives me hope for cycads for Canada!

Lori · Post by **Lori** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:13 pm

Oops, sorry, Steve. Just read your thread under "Cold-hardy Coonties," and you have already answered all my questions there. Keep us posted, though. Thank you.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:58 pm

Lori - One of the first things I do in the morning is go out and look at these

Will definitely post the results good or bad.

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:29 am

This one is a little further along now......

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 am

Knnn wrote:Lori,
Thanks for the photo! That is a great close up ( I really need to think about upgrading my camera soon )

The lowest here this winter was -1F / -18C . They seemed to tolerate the cold, the worst of the damage occured after a warm day with an 1'+ of rain and then another hard freeze. This was my fault since I never put a cover over them.

I've learned from my mistakes and am still confident these will pull through........it's just the waiting now

Wes, (Kansas),

You should have at least one already, Think it was in the second batch that went your way

Steve

Yea, it had scale on it and died

Luckly thou, that was the ONLY thing that had scale on it. It didn't move to any others. I can trade you a CIDP & Dachy seedlings for one.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:18 pm

Not to worry,
I won't bother you or anyone else with my scale infested plants...........

P.S.- Zamias are not a host for scale.

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:47 pm

Knnn wrote:Not to worry,
I won't bother you or anyone else with my scale infested plants...........

P.S.- Zamias are not a host for scale.

NOOOOOOO!!!! I really do not think your trees had scale. I think it might have picked it up from a Citrus (Grapefruit) tree I got from my kids babysitter.
But it died before it spread to any others.
I can't say enough good things about the trees you have been so generous to give out. None of them have had Scale when you gave them to me. I think that ole Grapefruit gave it to it.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:53 pm

Sorry for my curt reply.......... Been stuck inside too long this Winter

Alchris · Post by **Alchris** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:08 am

I understand you completely, Steve.

I think that I have the worst case of Spring Fever in years.

Allen

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:25 am

Scale on Cycads is something I may take too seriously. Asian scale is currently decimating large native populations of Cycas.
Most of mine are grown from seed and I do go to great lengths to inspect plants that come from states where this may be present.

The common pest such as spider mites, brown scale, mealybugs etc generally don't bother with Cycads too much.

"The aulacaspsis scale is fatal for most species of the genus Cycas, yet members of the genera Ceratozamia, Dioon, Encephalartos, Macrozamia, Microcycas, and Zamia are effectively unharmed by this scale pest. While none of these plants are common in the nursery trade, the Dioon (pronounced dye-oon) species may be the best replacements for the king and queen sago. They are easy to grow in south Florida, are among the easiest of the large cycads to find in wholesale nurseries, and are similar in size to the king and queen sago. While they do not have widely used common names in English, their scientific names are not terribly long."

Excerpt is from a short discussion on Asian Scale, rest of article is here --> http://www.plantapalm.com/vce/misc/dioon.htm

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:19 pm

Yea, I definatly KNOW that YOUR tree did not have it when you gave it to me. About a month or so later, my youngest's babysetter was given two Citrus trees. I saw them in her garage and she offered them to me. I was hesitant as I could see they had HORRIBLE scale. But me being a Citrus lover, I took them.
But yea, I would love to try another one, but this time planted on my South facing wall that gets actually good Sun from morning until night.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:57 am

First Sago in the GH - Still like watching these unfurl

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:32 am

Steve,I went ahead and planted mine next to my T.fortuneri,so far the cold hasn't hurt it any,but it's still too soon to tell,was 23* this morning when I got up! They say 15* tonite!!!!
I also love to see them unfurl as well!
Yours is looking great!

Wes North Van · Post by **Wes North Van** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:40 am

Yikes 15F

Hope all your plants come through this.

Good Luck.

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:04 am

Thanks,will be keeping my fingers crossed tonite!!!

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:26 am

I went ahead and pulled up the pots of my Yucca Trechy & the one Sego I had in front.
So far, everything in the greenhouse is staying good. I have a lil heater in there and it seems to be keeping up.

Lori · Post by **Lori** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:38 am

Nice shot! What do you use to heat your greenhouse, KNN? Your plants seem to love it, and in zone 5 it must be a challenge.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:10 pm

Thanks Lori! been using two 1500w electric heaters, did manage to keep the containers above freezing on the coldest nights.
( Many nights with icecicles hanging inside from the roof

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:51 am

Little further along now.....

C.taitungensis seedling....Just need 2-3 weeks of warm weather to get everthing else going!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:04 am

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:08 am

And a couple Dioon leaves reaching for sunlight.........( they will get a better spot this year

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:59 am

Always a pleasant sight to see!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:40 pm

Doing my best to get some decent looking leaves this season, had a couple new arrivals......should fill in nicely in a month or two

Steve

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:09 pm

Looking like cycad city!!!!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:44 pm

Thanks Don, naybe more of a Village at the moment

One more photo..........

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:11 pm

Looking great!
Mine has yet to flush!!!
I went to Raymone Sharon house today,and bought a 5 gallon,sabal minor,Mcurtain,vareity,6years from seed,for
25 bucks.he has some seedlings,of a sabal that has 8ft fan spread leafs,he said these don't trunk,I don't know of this vareity do you?
He has 3 gallons of the sabals,but I didn't get a price,and lots of basjoos,here's his number if you'd like to call him and get
a price list,he doesn't have a computer,and he didn't take any of these to the farmers market.
316-269-1440.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:18 pm

The Sabal minor " McCurtain " lineage goes back to natualized specimens from McCurtain County,OK
Should prove to be quite hardy, not sure what differences in growth rate,etc.

Thanks for the Info! I forsee a trip to Wichita in my near future ... lol

Your Sago should be starting up soon, about half of mine have so far. Still waiting for the verdict on the Zamias outside, cleared the mulch and found some healthy root nodules at the surface, just need the warm weater to stick around a while.

Steve

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:29 pm

I forgot to ask you how your robusta did?
Mine that I covered with trash cans,did get some leaf freeze burn,even the top part of the new leaf spears are brown,but when they come out some more there are green,so half leaf is brown other half green!!!
I tell you they look a little ragged,hopefully with the warmer weather they will perk up again!

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:58 pm

The robusta suprised me, it fared better than the native trees!
Just a little tip burn, Two fans were on their way out before the freeze- if anything it sped that process up a little.

Good to hear yours are OK, I'm sure by the end of Summer all evidence of damage will be long gone.

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:49 pm

TROPIC!!!!!! Is this guy in Wichita????? I will buy some from him this week if he is in Wichita. PLEASE Respond ASAP.

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:23 pm

Yes in Wichita,1 block east of the 1st Nazerene church that has the large yuccas,which are in full bloom,there just beautiful too,I wished I'd had my camera yesterday!!!!

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:36 pm

That Church you can see around the Kellog-Washington Exit?
Where did the Church get those Yuccas at????? And what kind are they?
So I just need to give him a call and he might sell me a "McCurtain" for $25?

tropicman · Post by **tropicman** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:01 pm

Yes that church,Ray,is the care taker of the church and planted the yuccas years ago,along with everything else at the church.
Ray also has lots of hardy plants to our zone,yuccas,desert willows,hardy live oaks,basjoos,acubas,lantana,a vareity of mexican bird of paradise,the list goes on and on,of hardy plants,hardy cactus,huge list,better bring lots of cash,took about
300 bucks from me!!!!LOL

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri May 11, 2007 6:04 pm

This one ended up with a fairly nice set of leaves , Think I may have to give it some more room

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